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		<title>By: maria</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2008/04/24/do-you-pay-your-kids-an-allowance/comment-page-1/#comment-23632</link>
		<dc:creator>maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frugal dad, what do you do with children that are 13 and 17? They are wasting away my patients.  Father gets home at 6 i get home at 5 and having the children do chores is like pulling teeth.  Very diffiult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frugal dad, what do you do with children that are 13 and 17? They are wasting away my patients.  Father gets home at 6 i get home at 5 and having the children do chores is like pulling teeth.  Very diffiult.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2008/04/24/do-you-pay-your-kids-an-allowance/comment-page-1/#comment-14104</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I&#039;d totally disagree with a Chore =&gt; $ schedule as described.  There are Chores we all complete, and we do NOT get paid for them.  For example, making my bed, cleaning my dishes, put away my clothes, setting my table.  These acts should be considered acts of responsibility.  

What, if your kid doesn&#039;t clean the dishes, then someone else gets the 25c?  Hey, I&#039;ll be right here to tell you, have your kid come clean my dishes and I&#039;ll give him 25c.

I think your heart is in the right place, but I think that this type of execution is very bad.  

If your kid opens someone&#039;s door he gets a quarter?

In my opinion, it is much better execution to have the kid do his or her chores.  Period.  End of discussion.  The allowance should really be used to encourage financial responsibility, and to reduce the opportunity of your own debt.  Allowances place the burden of decision on the child -- and the opportunity for growth, and learning cause/effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#8217;d totally disagree with a Chore =&gt; $ schedule as described.  There are Chores we all complete, and we do NOT get paid for them.  For example, making my bed, cleaning my dishes, put away my clothes, setting my table.  These acts should be considered acts of responsibility.  </p>
<p>What, if your kid doesn&#8217;t clean the dishes, then someone else gets the 25c?  Hey, I&#8217;ll be right here to tell you, have your kid come clean my dishes and I&#8217;ll give him 25c.</p>
<p>I think your heart is in the right place, but I think that this type of execution is very bad.  </p>
<p>If your kid opens someone&#8217;s door he gets a quarter?</p>
<p>In my opinion, it is much better execution to have the kid do his or her chores.  Period.  End of discussion.  The allowance should really be used to encourage financial responsibility, and to reduce the opportunity of your own debt.  Allowances place the burden of decision on the child &#8212; and the opportunity for growth, and learning cause/effect.</p>
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		<title>By: I Was Wrong: Scrapping the Child Chore Chart for a New Allowance System &#124; Frugal Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>I Was Wrong: Scrapping the Child Chore Chart for a New Allowance System &#124; Frugal Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] money.  Well, I was half wrong.  Several months ago I wrote about the elaborate commission-based allowance system I had created for my kids whereby they would earn a bit of money for each chore completed.  The [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] money.  Well, I was half wrong.  Several months ago I wrote about the elaborate commission-based allowance system I had created for my kids whereby they would earn a bit of money for each chore completed.  The [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kids and money management &#124; House on a hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kids and money management &#124; House on a hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is an interesting recap on Blogher about parents’ ideas on how to teach kids the value of money. One father says, “I don’t like the word ‘allowance.’ It looks too much like receiving money whether you [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is an interesting recap on Blogher about parents’ ideas on how to teach kids the value of money. One father says, “I don’t like the word ‘allowance.’ It looks too much like receiving money whether you [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mjh</title>
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		<dc:creator>mjh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your chart.  I may end up doing that.  However, I do some different things: http://dullgeek.blogspot.com/2008/09/my-two-cents.html

My only disagreement with you is in the assumption that money received must always be earned.  I give my children an allowance, one that they didn&#039;t earn.  I do this on purpose, and I don&#039;t care that they didn&#039;t earn it.

My purpose for allowance is to give them some money to practice using, whether they earn it or not.  I exercise this practice in other things I want them to learn about and it doesn&#039;t bother me in the least.  I don&#039;t expect them to earn the cost of pencils, pens and paper in order to practice writing.  I don&#039;t expect them to earn the cost of rags, paper towels and soap in order to learn how to clean a bathroom.  I happily provide those things to them for free because I want them to learn how to use them.  Similarly, I provide my children with money (at no cost to them) so that they&#039;ll have a chance to use it.  

I have 4 sons.  The oldest of which is 10.  Currently I control almost every spending decision in their lives.  But as they get older, I plan on letting them control more of the spending decisions that they have to make.  The money that I spend on clothes for them (that I don&#039;t expect them to earn) will gradually go from my decision on how to use it, to theirs.  The money that I spend on transportation for them (that I also don&#039;t expect them to earn) will gradually go from my decision to theirs.  They will get increasing control of the budget that I have allocated for them.  But with that control, comes consequences.  If they spend their entire clothing budget on video games, they had better be prepared to live off the clothes from last year - clothes that might not fit well.  (Frankly, I hope they make some dumb mistake like that.  I&#039;d rather that they learn the consequences early when the costs are low, than learn those consequences at 30 with a credit card.)

As they get old enough to get a job and earn their own money, the amount of the budget that I allocate to them will start to diminish.  My goal is to get them to manage almost *all* spending decisions about their life by the time they graduate high school.  (Housing will be a notable exception to that rule.  Those who go to college will still get housing costs paid for by me.  Those who don&#039;t, won&#039;t.)

My point is this: I have no problems with them getting money without earning it.  I give them lots of things that they didn&#039;t earn.  I want them to get the practice of using money and running out, without the requirement that they earn it.  If I require that they earn it, they may never get a chance to practice with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your chart.  I may end up doing that.  However, I do some different things: <a href="http://dullgeek.blogspot.com/2008/09/my-two-cents.html" rel="nofollow">http://dullgeek.blogspot.com/2008/09/my-two-cents.html</a></p>
<p>My only disagreement with you is in the assumption that money received must always be earned.  I give my children an allowance, one that they didn&#8217;t earn.  I do this on purpose, and I don&#8217;t care that they didn&#8217;t earn it.</p>
<p>My purpose for allowance is to give them some money to practice using, whether they earn it or not.  I exercise this practice in other things I want them to learn about and it doesn&#8217;t bother me in the least.  I don&#8217;t expect them to earn the cost of pencils, pens and paper in order to practice writing.  I don&#8217;t expect them to earn the cost of rags, paper towels and soap in order to learn how to clean a bathroom.  I happily provide those things to them for free because I want them to learn how to use them.  Similarly, I provide my children with money (at no cost to them) so that they&#8217;ll have a chance to use it.  </p>
<p>I have 4 sons.  The oldest of which is 10.  Currently I control almost every spending decision in their lives.  But as they get older, I plan on letting them control more of the spending decisions that they have to make.  The money that I spend on clothes for them (that I don&#8217;t expect them to earn) will gradually go from my decision on how to use it, to theirs.  The money that I spend on transportation for them (that I also don&#8217;t expect them to earn) will gradually go from my decision to theirs.  They will get increasing control of the budget that I have allocated for them.  But with that control, comes consequences.  If they spend their entire clothing budget on <a href="http://frugaldad.com/recommends/gamefly" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://frugaldad.com/recommends/gamefly';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">video games</a>, they had better be prepared to live off the clothes from last year &#8211; clothes that might not fit well.  (Frankly, I hope they make some dumb mistake like that.  I&#8217;d rather that they learn the consequences early when the costs are low, than learn those consequences at 30 with a credit card.)</p>
<p>As they get old enough to get a job and earn their own money, the amount of the budget that I allocate to them will start to diminish.  My goal is to get them to manage almost *all* spending decisions about their life by the time they graduate high school.  (Housing will be a notable exception to that rule.  Those who go to college will still get housing costs paid for by me.  Those who don&#8217;t, won&#8217;t.)</p>
<p>My point is this: I have no problems with them getting money without earning it.  I give them lots of things that they didn&#8217;t earn.  I want them to get the practice of using money and running out, without the requirement that they earn it.  If I require that they earn it, they may never get a chance to practice with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy from Texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy from Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We follow Dave Ramsey&#039;s Financial Peace Jr. envelope system. Save, spend and give. It&#039;s based on commission. We started with my son at age 4... he is now 5 and it&#039;s working great! Sometimes he doesn&#039;t do his chores, but then he doesn&#039;t get the money! It has taught him about work ethic, giving and that you have to work if you want to buy things. He realizes that money doesn&#039;t just come out of an ATM machine now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We follow <a href="http://frugaldad.com/recommends/thetotalmoneymakeover" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://frugaldad.com/recommends/thetotalmoneymakeover';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">Dave Ramsey</a>&#8217;s Financial Peace Jr. envelope system. Save, spend and give. It&#8217;s based on commission. We started with my son at age 4&#8230; he is now 5 and it&#8217;s working great! Sometimes he doesn&#8217;t do his chores, but then he doesn&#8217;t get the money! It has taught him about work ethic, giving and that you have to work if you want to buy things. He realizes that money doesn&#8217;t just come out of an ATM machine now.</p>
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		<title>By: JHS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JHS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 04:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Teach Your Kids About Money With Only 4 Quarters &#124; Frugal Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teach Your Kids About Money With Only 4 Quarters &#124; Frugal Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 14:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MITBeta @ Don't Feed The Alligators</title>
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		<dc:creator>MITBeta @ Don't Feed The Alligators</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 02:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 1busymamaof2

Doesn&#039;t this just teach your kids that they can choose not to do their chores for the exchange of $0.25?</description>
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<p>Doesn&#8217;t this just teach your kids that they can choose not to do their chores for the exchange of $0.25?</p>
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		<title>By: 1busymamaof2</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 05:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are starting a bank of Mom &amp; Dad!  With a bank register made from a spreadsheet because my kids are bad about leaving their money laying around and the other picks it up or they leave it at home when we go out, etc.

We are just starting out system and one of my rules is &quot;If I do YOUR chore then you are going to pay me!&quot; I deduct $.25 for each chore I have to do for them.   

My kids are 9 and 8 (will be 8 in 3 weeks) and are starting to realize the concept of money more and more.  They have had bank accounts at school through their student council bank since kindergarten but I have never given them money to bank with.  I&#039;ve always made them earn it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are starting a bank of Mom &amp; Dad!  With a bank register made from a spreadsheet because my kids are bad about leaving their money laying around and the other picks it up or they leave it at home when we go out, etc.</p>
<p>We are just starting out system and one of my rules is &#8220;If I do YOUR chore then you are going to pay me!&#8221; I deduct $.25 for each chore I have to do for them.   </p>
<p>My kids are 9 and 8 (will be 8 in 3 weeks) and are starting to realize the concept of money more and more.  They have had bank accounts at school through their student council bank since kindergarten but I have never given them money to bank with.  I&#8217;ve always made them earn it.</p>
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