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	<title>Comments on: Sunday Conversation #12:  Shifting Financial Responsibilities to Teens</title>
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		<title>By: Luke @ Money and Fitness Blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are some money saving hints in preparing for having kids?</description>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FD
Thanks for posting my question and offering some great advice!  My daughter started her first job last week and will be starting her first semester of college in about a month. I think the first bill she will be taking on is that cell phone bill, as well as a portion of her auto insurance.  We&#039;ll see how it goes.  Thanks again!

Lin - Your site sounds very interesting and you have mentioned some issues that my husband and I face.  I&#039;m very interested to see what other in those situations are doing.

J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FD<br />
Thanks for posting my question and offering some great advice!  My daughter started her first job last week and will be starting her first semester of college in about a month. I think the first bill she will be taking on is that cell phone bill, as well as a portion of her <a href="http://frugaldad.com/recommends/esurance" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://esurance.com';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">auto insurance</a>.  We&#8217;ll see how it goes.  Thanks again!</p>
<p>Lin &#8211; Your site sounds very interesting and you have mentioned some issues that my husband and I face.  I&#8217;m very interested to see what other in those situations are doing.</p>
<p>J</p>
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		<title>By: Lin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I discuss the various aspects of &quot;helping vs. enabling&quot; grown children so much on my blog, I would like a little more information regarding what you mean by not contributing to the household due to &quot;extenuating circumstances like divorce, illness or financial hardship&quot;. Serious illness is one thing, but divorce? And if you could define what you mean by &quot;financial hardship&quot;?

From the emails and comments I get from parents struggling with adult children still living at home, not following any of the &quot;agreed upon&quot; rules and expectations of even helping around the house etc, more often than not having grown children living in the parents&#039; home has had extremely detrimental effects on both the parents and the &quot;kids&quot;. 

Such as many grown adults who &quot;planned&quot; on only staying for a couple/few months because of one reason or another, are still living with the parents and not working at all, but are sleeping until 2 p.m. and not making any attempt to find/keep a job, help around the house, pick up after themselves, help with meal preparation etc, and parents write to me or comment about these high frustrating situations and ask what they should do. 

These same &quot;kids&quot; manage to buy expensive cell phones and other techie gadgets, spend their money on fun and entertainment, are not paying any of the agreed upon financial contributions to the parents, and have saved zero dollars towards getting out on their own.

@Tiffanie, I must respectfully disagree. Waiting until children have reached the age of attending college to teach financial responsibility and money management is many years too late. From the time children are very very young, kids need to begin being taught the basics of money with more information built upon year after year, so that by the time kids are able to earn money on their own they&#039;ve already come to an understanding about managing their money and making wise financial choices/decisions. 

Then, when they are adults, they need to have full responsibility for their own spending/saving habits (and natural consequences for poor choices) rather than parents paying their adult child&#039;s bills etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I discuss the various aspects of &#8220;helping vs. enabling&#8221; grown children so much on my blog, I would like a little more information regarding what you mean by not contributing to the household due to &#8220;extenuating circumstances like divorce, illness or financial hardship&#8221;. Serious illness is one thing, but divorce? And if you could define what you mean by &#8220;financial hardship&#8221;?</p>
<p>From the emails and comments I get from parents struggling with adult children still living at home, not following any of the &#8220;agreed upon&#8221; rules and expectations of even helping around the house etc, more often than not having grown children living in the parents&#8217; home has had extremely detrimental effects on both the parents and the &#8220;kids&#8221;. </p>
<p>Such as many grown adults who &#8220;planned&#8221; on only staying for a couple/few months because of one reason or another, are still living with the parents and not working at all, but are sleeping until 2 p.m. and not making any attempt to find/keep a job, help around the house, pick up after themselves, help with meal preparation etc, and parents write to me or comment about these high frustrating situations and ask what they should do. </p>
<p>These same &#8220;kids&#8221; manage to buy expensive cell phones and other techie gadgets, spend their money on fun and entertainment, are not paying any of the agreed upon financial contributions to the parents, and have saved zero dollars towards getting out on their own.</p>
<p>@Tiffanie, I must respectfully disagree. Waiting until children have reached the age of attending college to teach financial responsibility and money management is many years too late. From the time children are very very young, kids need to begin being taught the basics of money with more information built upon year after year, so that by the time kids are able to earn money on their own they&#8217;ve already come to an understanding about managing their money and making wise financial choices/decisions. </p>
<p>Then, when they are adults, they need to have full responsibility for their own spending/saving habits (and natural consequences for poor choices) rather than parents paying their adult child&#8217;s bills etc.</p>
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		<title>By: tiffanie</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 06:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just wanted to share my experience here as well, if i may do so :)  i graduated and moved out my parents house a month later to live with my boyfriends (we&#039;d been together for 3 years at that point and both had jobs, full time).  we were both full time college and paying all of our own bills (rent, utilities, phones, car insurance, and all that comes with living on our own!).  had we needed help, i know my mom would&#039;ve been more than willing to help because she was proud that we were making it &quot;on our own&quot;.  

my sisters, on the other hand, didn&#039;t get jobs until they were 19 and lived at home until around the same time.  they aren&#039;t going to college and they struggle to pay their bills.  i don&#039;t think they&#039;re responsible (nor mature enough) to really handle being &quot;on their own&quot;.

i think that having a college student living at home would be a great time to start teaching financial responsibility.  i know some parents who charge rent, i know some who don&#039;t.  my mother never would&#039;ve charged rent, but we paid for our own cell phones and car insurance from day one.  those were luxury items that my mom wouldn&#039;t pay for, and i know that&#039;s reasonable.  

the only things i wish i would&#039;ve been taught was to save better...not to spend every dime i made.  those are invaluable lessons in responsibility. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just wanted to share my experience here as well, if i may do so <img src='http://frugaldad.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   i graduated and moved out my parents house a month later to live with my boyfriends (we&#8217;d been together for 3 years at that point and both had jobs, full time).  we were both full time college and paying all of our own bills (rent, utilities, phones, <a href="http://frugaldad.com/recommends/esurance" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://esurance.com';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">car insurance</a>, and all that comes with living on our own!).  had we needed help, i know my mom would&#8217;ve been more than willing to help because she was proud that we were making it &#8220;on our own&#8221;.  </p>
<p>my sisters, on the other hand, didn&#8217;t get jobs until they were 19 and lived at home until around the same time.  they aren&#8217;t going to college and they struggle to pay their bills.  i don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re responsible (nor mature enough) to really handle being &#8220;on their own&#8221;.</p>
<p>i think that having a college student living at home would be a great time to start teaching financial responsibility.  i know some parents who charge rent, i know some who don&#8217;t.  my mother never would&#8217;ve charged rent, but we paid for our own cell phones and car insurance from day one.  those were luxury items that my mom wouldn&#8217;t pay for, and i know that&#8217;s reasonable.  </p>
<p>the only things i wish i would&#8217;ve been taught was to save better&#8230;not to spend every dime i made.  those are invaluable lessons in responsibility. <img src='http://frugaldad.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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