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	<title>Comments on: Never Pay Credit Cards Before Mortgage</title>
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		<title>By: We Owe $80,000 On Credit Cards &#8211; Where To Start? &#124; Frugal Dad</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2008/08/20/why-you-should-never-put-credit-cards-before-the-mortgage-payment/comment-page-2/#comment-37483</link>
		<dc:creator>We Owe $80,000 On Credit Cards &#8211; Where To Start? &#124; Frugal Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 09:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] up, and for making that a top priority. So many times people in your situation make payments to credit cards before the mortgage payment because some obnoxious credit card collector is breathing down their neck. Prioritize the income [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] up, and for making that a top priority. So many times people in your situation make payments to credit cards before the mortgage payment because some obnoxious credit card collector is breathing down their neck. Prioritize the income [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an exception to the rule that you should always pay your mortgage first.  This also happens to be the situation I&#039;m currently in.  I am about $100k upside on a house due to the market, NOT taking a HELOC or 2nd, and I also have about $60k in credit card debt due to a failed business (that was breaking even for 6 years until the economy tanked).  I don&#039;t really care if I lose the house because I could rent a nicer house in a better neighborhood for about $1000/month less than I am paying on the mortgage (which is just a 30 year fixed at 5.625, not a bad loan, the house is just not worth what I paid unfortunately).  I am employed (and will hopefuly remain that way) so I make too much to qualify for bankrupcy, but my lawyer did advise that I could just stop paying the house, and pay off the cards.  The logic being that unlike the credit cards, who can sue me and garnigh my wages, the mortgage company can just forclose on the house and that&#039;s then end of it.  Also, given how long it would take for the forclosure to go through, I could likely live for free for probably a year or more, allowing me to pay off the cards much more quickly.  Is anyone else in this situation or care to comment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an exception to the rule that you should always pay your mortgage first.  This also happens to be the situation I&#8217;m currently in.  I am about $100k upside on a house due to the market, NOT taking a HELOC or 2nd, and I also have about $60k in <a href="http://frugaldad.com/recommends/debtgoal" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://debtgoal.com';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">credit card debt</a> due to a failed business (that was breaking even for 6 years until the economy tanked).  I don&#8217;t really care if I lose the house because I could rent a nicer house in a better neighborhood for about $1000/month less than I am paying on the mortgage (which is just a 30 year fixed at 5.625, not a bad loan, the house is just not worth what I paid unfortunately).  I am employed (and will hopefuly remain that way) so I make too much to qualify for bankrupcy, but my lawyer did advise that I could just stop paying the house, and pay off the cards.  The logic being that unlike the credit cards, who can sue me and garnigh my wages, the mortgage company can just forclose on the house and that&#8217;s then end of it.  Also, given how long it would take for the forclosure to go through, I could likely live for free for probably a year or more, allowing me to pay off the cards much more quickly.  Is anyone else in this situation or care to comment?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2008/08/20/why-you-should-never-put-credit-cards-before-the-mortgage-payment/comment-page-2/#comment-36586</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sara, I&#039;m no expert on finance.  However, the initial visit with a lawyer is usually free (consultation/talk about the options and how to pay).  It was helpful to me and I never did end up using the services.   I&#039;m not necessarily saying you should use their services but maybe set up three different consult appts (three different firms) as a starting point, keeping in mind they are trying to ultimately make a profit.  JMA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sara, I&#8217;m no expert on finance.  However, the initial visit with a lawyer is usually free (consultation/talk about the options and how to pay).  It was helpful to me and I never did end up using the services.   I&#8217;m not necessarily saying you should use their services but maybe set up three different consult appts (three different firms) as a starting point, keeping in mind they are trying to ultimately make a profit.  JMA</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a college student. I am in my final year and I graduate in December. I have had to pay for everything all on my own. There is no family to help me. I had a great job as a nanny, but could not keep it this year because of classes. I had to have the classes and they were only being offered at certain times. I have found another job but it doesn&#039;t pay very much. I can no longer afford the interest on a school loan I took with Bank of America my sophmore year. It&#039;s only $50 a month but I have no disposable income. It all goes to the other bills which have to be paid. I have no credit card bills, thank God. 
Today I got a summons from the Bank of America loan. I have no assets. I own nothing. Wage garnishment is not allowed in South Carolina (where I live). 
I am wondering if there is anything they can do to me? I know it has destroyed my credit. What is the absolute worst that can happen as a result of this going to court? I really need some advice but I can&#039;t afford to talk to a lawyer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a college student. I am in my final year and I graduate in December. I have had to pay for everything all on my own. There is no family to help me. I had a great job as a nanny, but could not keep it this year because of classes. I had to have the classes and they were only being offered at certain times. I have found another job but it doesn&#8217;t pay very much. I can no longer afford the interest on a school loan I took with Bank of America my sophmore year. It&#8217;s only $50 a month but I have no disposable income. It all goes to the other bills which have to be paid. I have no credit card bills, thank God.<br />
Today I got a summons from the Bank of America loan. I have no assets. I own nothing. Wage garnishment is not allowed in South Carolina (where I live).<br />
I am wondering if there is anything they can do to me? I know it has destroyed my credit. What is the absolute worst that can happen as a result of this going to court? I really need some advice but I can&#8217;t afford to talk to a lawyer.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was about to lose my home, as I was unable to afford the mortgage payments.  Luckily, I got a loan modification just in time and avoided foreclosure.  Now, I&#039;m being sued by Capital One Bank for a credit card I&#039;m unable to afford paying off.  I offered to pay $50 per month, which is all that I can afford.  They rejected my offer and are going ahead with the lawsuit.  They just don&#039;t care that I&#039;m out of work and living on a very meager income at present.  How can I do if I&#039;m unable to pay off this debt or afford $200 per month, as they are insisting on?  My main concern is keeping my mortgage current.  I don&#039;t want to fall behind again and I&#039;m doing all that I can do to avoid this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was about to lose my home, as I was unable to afford the mortgage payments.  Luckily, I got a loan modification just in time and avoided foreclosure.  Now, I&#8217;m being sued by Capital One Bank for a credit card I&#8217;m unable to afford paying off.  I offered to pay $50 per month, which is all that I can afford.  They rejected my offer and are going ahead with the lawsuit.  They just don&#8217;t care that I&#8217;m out of work and living on a very meager income at present.  How can I do if I&#8217;m unable to pay off this debt or afford $200 per month, as they are insisting on?  My main concern is keeping my mortgage current.  I don&#8217;t want to fall behind again and I&#8217;m doing all that I can do to avoid this.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this time, I have several credit cards...I have very good credit, but now am in stage 4 and in remission and my husband has prostate cancer and is now in his chest...Chemo has stop working for him...But, Am now on Disability....Which will not cover my credit cards payments...I do get part of my husband pension to live on..I also have a son that has problems and can&#039;t work..What do I tell the credit card companies? Or Do I file bankrupty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this time, I have several credit cards&#8230;I have very good credit, but now am in stage 4 and in remission and my husband has prostate cancer and is now in his chest&#8230;Chemo has stop working for him&#8230;But, Am now on Disability&#8230;.Which will not cover my credit cards payments&#8230;I do get part of my husband pension to live on..I also have a son that has problems and can&#8217;t work..What do I tell the credit card companies? Or Do I file bankrupty?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2008/08/20/why-you-should-never-put-credit-cards-before-the-mortgage-payment/comment-page-2/#comment-26965</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the best blog I&#039;ve been to on this subject.  I have a unique situation that has me stressed.  My wife has a credit card problem.  She does not work but I have a good job.  About seven or eight years ago she racked up $17,OOO in CC debt.  Before I found this out there was probably already three thousand dollars of interest and fees.  She tried to &quot;fix it&quot; herself, waited longer and made the problem worse.  When I finally found out, I was very angry but cleared out all our accounts, made balance transfers onto &quot;good&quot; cards I was carrying at a lower rate and got it paid off quickly.  A lesson learned but at least it was fixed.  So I thought.

Well inadvertantly I had just enabled her to continue to have a great credit score.  She did it again but worse....much worse this time.  I learned less than a week ago we are $70K in debt and the recent payments have just been missed so the interest has skyrocked.  It is possible, barely, that I could clean out every bank account and investment we have to almost pay this thing off.  However, my question is why do this?

All the cards are in her name only.  I don&#039;t know if they can back check but I want to transfer the home deed into my name only before this comes to fruition.  At that point she&#039;ll have few assets.  The cards, six of them, won&#039;t settle now because she&#039;s not so late yet.  I would like to settle it because then we paid what we could and it also shows up on her record (which is what I want).  I really really want her credit totally destroyed.  Not because I&#039;m angry and malicious but because I&#039;m trying to preserve the family which includes our three children, one with a significant handicap.  BTW, she is on board with this plan should we do it.  I want the CC companies to feel some pain and remember she is a bad bad bad risk...stay away from her!!

I think a stop payment on all the cards would either accomplish reaching a settlement or getting sued.  She&#039;d be w/o any assets to pay it back (she has no bank accounts, no cash, no job, nothing but a Roth IRA which is protected).  I can live with creditors calling all the time; in fact, if this is the decision we choose I could see even having some fun with it.  I&#039;m much more concerned with the legal ramifications.  

I have two main concerns:  1)  Can I become liable for payment without having signed for the cards and essentially destroying my own credit and 2)  Just how high can credit card interest compound to on a card?  When does it stop, $1,000,000? Plus court fees, etc.  On a current $70K debt just how much could it snowball to?  If it snowballs and then they legally come after me it will destroy us. But if they legally can&#039;t touch me, then it becomes a viable option that sounds better to me than bankruptsy.    

Bottom line, I want to ensure my wife can never do this to the family again but at the same time use my good credit to keep the family from financial Armageddon.  I know this is long-winded but it would be very helpful to know if it&#039;s reasonable to move in this direction.  I feel like I have little time to decide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the best blog I&#8217;ve been to on this subject.  I have a unique situation that has me stressed.  My wife has a credit card problem.  She does not work but I have a good job.  About seven or eight years ago she racked up $17,OOO in CC debt.  Before I found this out there was probably already three thousand dollars of interest and fees.  She tried to &#8220;fix it&#8221; herself, waited longer and made the problem worse.  When I finally found out, I was very angry but cleared out all our accounts, made <a href="http://frugaldad.com/recommends/balancetransfers" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://frugaldad.com/recommends/balancetransfers';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">balance transfers</a> onto &#8220;good&#8221; cards I was carrying at a lower rate and got it paid off quickly.  A lesson learned but at least it was fixed.  So I thought.</p>
<p>Well inadvertantly I had just enabled her to continue to have a great <a href="http://frugaldad.com/recommends/myfico" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://myfico.com';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">credit score</a>.  She did it again but worse&#8230;.much worse this time.  I learned less than a week ago we are $70K in debt and the recent payments have just been missed so the interest has skyrocked.  It is possible, barely, that I could clean out every bank account and investment we have to almost pay this thing off.  However, my question is why do this?</p>
<p>All the cards are in her name only.  I don&#8217;t know if they can back check but I want to transfer the home deed into my name only before this comes to fruition.  At that point she&#8217;ll have few assets.  The cards, six of them, won&#8217;t settle now because she&#8217;s not so late yet.  I would like to settle it because then we paid what we could and it also shows up on her record (which is what I want).  I really really want her credit totally destroyed.  Not because I&#8217;m angry and malicious but because I&#8217;m trying to preserve the family which includes our three children, one with a significant handicap.  BTW, she is on board with this plan should we do it.  I want the CC companies to feel some pain and remember she is a bad bad bad risk&#8230;stay away from her!!</p>
<p>I think a stop payment on all the cards would either accomplish reaching a settlement or getting sued.  She&#8217;d be w/o any assets to pay it back (she has no bank accounts, no cash, no job, nothing but a Roth IRA which is protected).  I can live with creditors calling all the time; in fact, if this is the decision we choose I could see even having some fun with it.  I&#8217;m much more concerned with the legal ramifications.  </p>
<p>I have two main concerns:  1)  Can I become liable for payment without having signed for the cards and essentially destroying my own credit and 2)  Just how high can credit card interest compound to on a card?  When does it stop, $1,000,000? Plus court fees, etc.  On a current $70K debt just how much could it snowball to?  If it snowballs and then they legally come after me it will destroy us. But if they legally can&#8217;t touch me, then it becomes a viable option that sounds better to me than bankruptsy.    </p>
<p>Bottom line, I want to ensure my wife can never do this to the family again but at the same time use my good credit to keep the family from financial Armageddon.  I know this is long-winded but it would be very helpful to know if it&#8217;s reasonable to move in this direction.  I feel like I have little time to decide.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a self employed artist and have had a very successful business for over 30 years. About a year and a half ago my business went belly up due to the type of companies I did work for (recreation and publishing) and the overall economy went south. My wife and I live in Northern Michigan. There are absolutely no jobs up here. Recently an ad ran in our local paper for one person to work at our local drive-up ice cream bar. Over 400 people applied. It&#039;s a seasonal job. 

We barely have had enough money to pay our mortgage, food and utilities. We recently brought in a relative who is mentally and physically disabled and my wife tends to her needs. It helps make our house payment. I&#039;m not eligible for unemployment. I have been able to bring in a little money by doing odd jobs for a few friends. I have not been paying on our credit cards for quite sometime and now it looks like we&#039;re being brought into court. I tried explaining to the credit card people our situation months ago. They even offered a fairly large reduction on what we owed but we weren&#039;t able to meet their monthly payment for that (it was quite a carrot they dangled in front of us). They said nothing else could be done. I just received a summons to appear in court. I have 21 days to contact the credit card attorney and maybe work something out. I&#039;m hoping they will listen. What is so hard to accept and that I always paid my cards on time and paid large amounts each time I&#039;m going to call the attorney&#039;s this week but only after I talk to a few knowledgeable people. I really don&#039;t want to file for bankruptcy if possible. I just thought I&#039;d put my story out there. Thanks for listening and I believe if we all stick together we&#039;ll make it through these stressful times</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a self employed artist and have had a very successful business for over 30 years. About a year and a half ago my business went belly up due to the type of companies I did work for (recreation and publishing) and the overall economy went south. My wife and I live in Northern Michigan. There are absolutely no jobs up here. Recently an ad ran in our local paper for one person to work at our local drive-up ice cream bar. Over 400 people applied. It&#8217;s a seasonal job. </p>
<p>We barely have had enough money to pay our mortgage, food and utilities. We recently brought in a relative who is mentally and physically disabled and my wife tends to her needs. It helps make our house payment. I&#8217;m not eligible for unemployment. I have been able to bring in a little money by doing odd jobs for a few friends. I have not been paying on our credit cards for quite sometime and now it looks like we&#8217;re being brought into court. I tried explaining to the credit card people our situation months ago. They even offered a fairly large reduction on what we owed but we weren&#8217;t able to meet their monthly payment for that (it was quite a carrot they dangled in front of us). They said nothing else could be done. I just received a summons to appear in court. I have 21 days to contact the credit card attorney and maybe work something out. I&#8217;m hoping they will listen. What is so hard to accept and that I always paid my cards on time and paid large amounts each time I&#8217;m going to call the attorney&#8217;s this week but only after I talk to a few knowledgeable people. I really don&#8217;t want to file for bankruptcy if possible. I just thought I&#8217;d put my story out there. Thanks for listening and I believe if we all stick together we&#8217;ll make it through these stressful times</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think everyone is missing what has happened to all these credit card companies which are the banks that we bailed out. With out our help they would be out of business. I AM ONE OF THE TAXPAYERS THAT GAVE THEM BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO STAY IN BUSINESS so how much of that money is ours try dividing it between each and tell them  thats what they owe you plus interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think everyone is missing what has happened to all these credit card companies which are the banks that we bailed out. With out our help they would be out of business. I AM ONE OF THE TAXPAYERS THAT GAVE THEM BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO STAY IN BUSINESS so how much of that money is ours try dividing it between each and tell them  thats what they owe you plus interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Erickson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Erickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am responsible for some credit card debt of which I have fallen behind.  I have been trying to pay something to each bank, but now realize I cannot keep up with the minimums.  My question is:  If I continue paying at least something each month to each bank - paying more when possible - will the cc company not be able to put me in collections?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am responsible for some <a href="http://frugaldad.com/recommends/debtgoal" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://debtgoal.com';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">credit card debt</a> of which I have fallen behind.  I have been trying to pay something to each bank, but now realize I cannot keep up with the minimums.  My question is:  If I continue paying at least something each month to each bank &#8211; paying more when possible &#8211; will the cc company not be able to put me in collections?</p>
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