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		<title>By: One Year Of Frugal Dad, A Look Back &#124; Frugal Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>One Year Of Frugal Dad, A Look Back &#124; Frugal Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rob in Madrid</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2008/10/28/the-most-important-election-in-our-history-not-really/comment-page-1/#comment-11127</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob in Madrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me add that the Regan revelution began and ended with 9 words. I think you all know what started it, but what ended was

Brownie you’re doing a heck of a job.

GOOD RIDIDENS BUSH, you won&#039;t be missed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me add that the Regan revelution began and ended with 9 words. I think you all know what started it, but what ended was</p>
<p>Brownie you’re doing a heck of a job.</p>
<p>GOOD RIDIDENS BUSH, you won&#8217;t be missed</p>
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		<title>By: Rob in Madrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob in Madrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one time where I disagree with you. America faces challenges that rival that of the great depression. The deleveraging process will long and very painful enough in it&#039;s self. Greatly compounding all of this is the fact that 75 million credit card maxed out baby boomers are retiring and are expecting the Government to step up to the plate and keep them in style there accustomed to. 

It’s going to take all of Obama’s great skills as a orator to rally the nation to the great challenges. At the best of times it’s hard to convince Americans to cut back, this time you asking them for far more. To pay far higher taxes for far less goverment.

Obama will either going down as another Regan or a Jimmy Carter, there won’t be an in between.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one time where I disagree with you. America faces challenges that rival that of the great depression. The deleveraging process will long and very painful enough in it&#8217;s self. Greatly compounding all of this is the fact that 75 million credit card maxed out baby boomers are retiring and are expecting the Government to step up to the plate and keep them in style there accustomed to. </p>
<p>It’s going to take all of Obama’s great skills as a orator to rally the nation to the great challenges. At the best of times it’s hard to convince Americans to cut back, this time you asking them for far more. To pay far higher <a href="http://frugaldad.com/recommends/turbotax" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://turbotax.com';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">taxes</a> for far less goverment.</p>
<p>Obama will either going down as another Regan or a Jimmy Carter, there won’t be an in between.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. It was refreshing to hear that our country is great. It seems like everyone in the media and politicians have been telling us how bad our country is and how we need to change it. Have they been to other countries? We live in a pretty great place!

I was also glad to see that you didn&#039;t endorse a presidential candidate! It&#039;s true, voting is personal, and we all have the right to vote. We should make up our own minds and not base our decision on what everyone else is telling us.

Thank you for a great post, and an excellent blog! I will definitely be coming back to read more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. It was refreshing to hear that our country is great. It seems like everyone in the media and politicians have been telling us how bad our country is and how we need to change it. Have they been to other countries? We live in a pretty great place!</p>
<p>I was also glad to see that you didn&#8217;t endorse a presidential candidate! It&#8217;s true, voting is personal, and we all have the right to vote. We should make up our own minds and not base our decision on what everyone else is telling us.</p>
<p>Thank you for a great post, and an excellent blog! I will definitely be coming back to read more!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob in Madrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob in Madrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your Vote Does Count!

I got an interesting email from my Dad the other day. Ever since we moved overseas I&#039;ve made the point of always voting. Since ours is a safe liberal riding (long term incumbent) there is no real reason for me to go to the effort of voting but I do. Generally speaking I vote for fringe parties as I expect our candidate to win re-election.

But this year I decided to do something I often criticize Americans for. I voted for governing Conservative party because they are bible belt social conservatives, at least as much as you can be in liberal Canada. 

So imagine my shock when I got the following email from Dad

Hi Rob:
your vote was counted
after the recount the conservatives won by 17 votes

Dad

OMG!!!!!!!!!

Actually it was 2 votes as I voted on behalf of my wife (mail in ballot)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your Vote Does Count!</p>
<p>I got an interesting email from my Dad the other day. Ever since we moved overseas I&#8217;ve made the point of always voting. Since ours is a safe liberal riding (long term incumbent) there is no real reason for me to go to the effort of voting but I do. Generally speaking I vote for fringe parties as I expect our candidate to win re-election.</p>
<p>But this year I decided to do something I often criticize Americans for. I voted for governing Conservative party because they are bible belt social conservatives, at least as much as you can be in liberal Canada. </p>
<p>So imagine my shock when I got the following email from Dad</p>
<p>Hi Rob:<br />
your vote was counted<br />
after the recount the conservatives won by 17 votes</p>
<p>Dad</p>
<p>OMG!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>Actually it was 2 votes as I voted on behalf of my wife (mail in ballot)</p>
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		<title>By: Nabloid.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 06:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, America is bigger than one man.  But that one man just happens to be able to shape its future in many significant ways including altering its economy and foreign relations (creating wars, taxing people to death, spending itself into bankruptcy, or conversely, doing nothing).  People are now looking for government to &quot;save&quot; them.  People forgot what the governments true job is, and now people want a government to interfere in every part of their lives.  So it will be.   Government didn&#039;t make America great, the people did.  Government just created an atmosphere to allow people to flourish... but other countries can replicate that atmosphere and lure away successful, educated, hard working (and sometimes rich) folks, and smart corporations along with capital... Don&#039;t even pretend corporations and people can&#039;t leave the United States if the government starts to create a difficult environment to thrive, especially with some taxes above 50% proposed, which is too socialistic for my taste.  Money can leave the country faster than people and corporations, so don&#039;t forget it...

&quot;Besides, if you have been reading long and are well-aware of my strong fiscal conservatism, you can probably figure out who I’m voting for.  Then again, you probably can’t, because both parties have completely abandoned fiscally conservative ideals.&quot;

I couldn&#039;t agree more.  What happened to balancing the budget by cutting government spending?!?! The Democrats are socialist and the Republicans are Liberal!!!  Instead of cutting government spending, they want you to cut your spending through taxation so they can spend... Or they don&#039;t plan on dealing with the budget deficit and their plan is to grow our way to balanced budgets... like that works anymore considering how many promises they must make to win an election!  Geez... Both candidates show a lack of leadership in America is prevalent.  Yeah, sure, Obama could win a popularity contest and promise to be everyone&#039;s friend and give something to everyone, but leadership is an entirely different matter... Leaders command respect, they don&#039;t buy it or say anything to get it. 

When Obama wins, be prepared for higher taxes, and in some cases certain taxes will be above 50%...  See how that will work for the economy.  Also, while we&#039;re at it, let&#039;s give out social programs to everyone who hasn&#039;t earned it, and stick it to all the successful people.  In fact, let&#039;s tax corporations so badly that some decide to pack it up and move their headquarters elsewhere - to a country that doesn&#039;t utilize such harsh class warfare and blame the rich for all their ills. - It draws some real similarities to what a certain German (hint: last name starts with an H)once did with respect to blaming all the problems on one segment of society that also happened to consist of rich businessmen... Hmm. This is just the 21st century non-rascist, politically correct way to wage class warfare... blame the rich, the greedy corporations, and the oil companies for everything... &quot;It&#039;s us versus them!&quot; Instead of, &quot;We&#039;re all in this together, let&#039;s think of a rationale way we can ALL fix the problems without pointing fingers and placing the blame on one class or another.&quot;

But hey, let&#039;s try it Obama&#039;s way.  Then when the middle class least expects it, lets increase the capital gains taxes, dividend tax, and inheritance taxes(55%!)... all while saying that none of the tax increases will affect the middle class... BS.   Obama&#039;s plan is to tax the rich and give to the poor, but he won&#039;t stop at just the rich because many of the effects will reach well into the middle class.  Robin Hood is President, but he&#039;ll be robbing middle class employers to give to the unemployed/underemployed, not the middle class (which the poor want to become eventually), and the middle class is going to feel it when their employer gets squeezed for cash!  Most corporations don&#039;t object to pay a fair tax, but when you single them out and apply above 50% tax rates on them... well, c&#039;mon... persecution is not fair.

Oh well, you get what you deserve, you reap what you sow.  If you sow nothing, you will reap nothing.  

Democracy is the the best system on the planet - but only when the population is informed, educated and logical. Democracy can be a joke when it is manipulated/controlled.  Liberal controlled media and school systems control America&#039;s future because they influence the very people that are America&#039;s future.

And what&#039;s with the education system not having a &quot;finance/economic&quot; class in addition to math?  Our entire economy runs on money and no one seems to understand the economy!  Every citizen must manage his/her finances, but without financial knowledge, there is less power and planning for the future.  Argh.

Oh well.  Keep praying for Obama to knock on your door and solve all your problems.  Good Luck.  Just remember, in his infinite wisdom, several years ago he sued citibank to force them to give out sub-prime loans to a certain community, as per the legislation in the community reinvestment act.  Smart man - force banks to give out sub-prime mortgages… but he was just “helping”.  Oh, he may be intelligent at gaining popularity and delivering speeches, but &quot;change&quot; needs to be defined with a clear and precise plan... Let&#039;s face it; the devil is in the details.  We all want the same thing, a better country, but we have much different views on how to get there.  

ALso, whats with this Republicans versus Democrats... That entire system isn&#039;t helping things.  We&#039;re in this together and we want the same end-goals... a vibrant, rich, healthy, productive country with no-one left behind. People will be left behind if they aren&#039;t productive, it&#039;s just apart of life.  Yes, we can give them some food and help them out, but we can&#039;t buy them each a golden toilet and big screen tv and a brand new SUV...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, America is bigger than one man.  But that one man just happens to be able to shape its future in many significant ways including altering its economy and foreign relations (creating wars, taxing people to death, spending itself into bankruptcy, or conversely, doing nothing).  People are now looking for government to &#8220;save&#8221; them.  People forgot what the governments true job is, and now people want a government to interfere in every part of their lives.  So it will be.   Government didn&#8217;t make America great, the people did.  Government just created an atmosphere to allow people to flourish&#8230; but other countries can replicate that atmosphere and lure away successful, educated, hard working (and sometimes rich) folks, and smart corporations along with capital&#8230; Don&#8217;t even pretend corporations and people can&#8217;t leave the United States if the government starts to create a difficult environment to thrive, especially with some taxes above 50% proposed, which is too socialistic for my taste.  Money can leave the country faster than people and corporations, so don&#8217;t forget it&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Besides, if you have been reading long and are well-aware of my strong fiscal conservatism, you can probably figure out who I’m voting for.  Then again, you probably can’t, because both parties have completely abandoned fiscally conservative ideals.&#8221;</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more.  What happened to balancing the budget by cutting government spending?!?! The Democrats are socialist and the Republicans are Liberal!!!  Instead of cutting government spending, they want you to cut your spending through taxation so they can spend&#8230; Or they don&#8217;t plan on dealing with the budget deficit and their plan is to grow our way to balanced budgets&#8230; like that works anymore considering how many promises they must make to win an election!  Geez&#8230; Both candidates show a lack of leadership in America is prevalent.  Yeah, sure, Obama could win a popularity contest and promise to be everyone&#8217;s friend and give something to everyone, but leadership is an entirely different matter&#8230; Leaders command respect, they don&#8217;t buy it or say anything to get it. </p>
<p>When Obama wins, be prepared for higher taxes, and in some cases certain <a href="http://frugaldad.com/recommends/turbotax" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://turbotax.com';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">taxes</a> will be above 50%&#8230;  See how that will work for the economy.  Also, while we&#8217;re at it, let&#8217;s give out social programs to everyone who hasn&#8217;t earned it, and stick it to all the successful people.  In fact, let&#8217;s tax corporations so badly that some decide to pack it up and move their headquarters elsewhere &#8211; to a country that doesn&#8217;t utilize such harsh class warfare and blame the rich for all their ills. &#8211; It draws some real similarities to what a certain German (hint: last name starts with an H)once did with respect to blaming all the problems on one segment of society that also happened to consist of rich businessmen&#8230; Hmm. This is just the 21st century non-rascist, politically correct way to wage class warfare&#8230; blame the rich, the greedy corporations, and the oil companies for everything&#8230; &#8220;It&#8217;s us versus them!&#8221; Instead of, &#8220;We&#8217;re all in this together, let&#8217;s think of a rationale way we can ALL fix the problems without pointing fingers and placing the blame on one class or another.&#8221;</p>
<p>But hey, let&#8217;s try it Obama&#8217;s way.  Then when the middle class least expects it, lets increase the capital gains taxes, dividend tax, and inheritance taxes(55%!)&#8230; all while saying that none of the tax increases will affect the middle class&#8230; BS.   Obama&#8217;s plan is to tax the rich and give to the poor, but he won&#8217;t stop at just the rich because many of the effects will reach well into the middle class.  Robin Hood is President, but he&#8217;ll be robbing middle class employers to give to the unemployed/underemployed, not the middle class (which the poor want to become eventually), and the middle class is going to feel it when their employer gets squeezed for cash!  Most corporations don&#8217;t object to pay a fair tax, but when you single them out and apply above 50% tax rates on them&#8230; well, c&#8217;mon&#8230; persecution is not fair.</p>
<p>Oh well, you get what you deserve, you reap what you sow.  If you sow nothing, you will reap nothing.  </p>
<p>Democracy is the the best system on the planet &#8211; but only when the population is informed, educated and logical. Democracy can be a joke when it is manipulated/controlled.  Liberal controlled media and school systems control America&#8217;s future because they influence the very people that are America&#8217;s future.</p>
<p>And what&#8217;s with the education system not having a &#8220;finance/economic&#8221; class in addition to math?  Our entire economy runs on money and no one seems to understand the economy!  Every citizen must manage his/her finances, but without financial knowledge, there is less power and planning for the future.  Argh.</p>
<p>Oh well.  Keep praying for Obama to knock on your door and solve all your problems.  Good Luck.  Just remember, in his infinite wisdom, several years ago he sued citibank to force them to give out sub-prime loans to a certain community, as per the legislation in the community reinvestment act.  Smart man &#8211; force banks to give out sub-prime mortgages… but he was just “helping”.  Oh, he may be intelligent at gaining popularity and delivering speeches, but &#8220;change&#8221; needs to be defined with a clear and precise plan&#8230; Let&#8217;s face it; the devil is in the details.  We all want the same thing, a better country, but we have much different views on how to get there.  </p>
<p>ALso, whats with this Republicans versus Democrats&#8230; That entire system isn&#8217;t helping things.  We&#8217;re in this together and we want the same end-goals&#8230; a vibrant, rich, healthy, productive country with no-one left behind. People will be left behind if they aren&#8217;t productive, it&#8217;s just apart of life.  Yes, we can give them some food and help them out, but we can&#8217;t buy them each a golden toilet and big screen tv and a brand new SUV&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: L. Hernandez</title>
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		<dc:creator>L. Hernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 00:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will attempt to keep this comment in the civilized tone of the original post.  I wish there were a term that described more accurately the minimal use of government services/funds.  Self-sufficiency is not really accurate; I suppose libertarian comes closer, possibly Amish is the most accurate.  

I am one of those who is delighted to see the outsize interest in this election; I find voter apathy to be disgraceful. The history/battles over enfranchishing our citizens matters. The evidence from other countries that disenfranchise a significant portion of their citizens or coerce the election results cannot be minimized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will attempt to keep this comment in the civilized tone of the original post.  I wish there were a term that described more accurately the minimal use of government services/funds.  Self-sufficiency is not really accurate; I suppose libertarian comes closer, possibly Amish is the most accurate.  </p>
<p>I am one of those who is delighted to see the outsize interest in this election; I find voter apathy to be disgraceful. The history/battles over enfranchishing our citizens matters. The evidence from other countries that disenfranchise a significant portion of their citizens or coerce the election results cannot be minimized.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob in Madrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob in Madrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hype is so high for Obama (assuming in the likey event he wins) that he is sure to disappoint. The biggest problem I see besides that is that with the Dems clearly in charge they will quickly forget that America is centre right country. 

On the other hand perhaps America will wind up with Universal Healthcare (aka socialist medicine)

who knows</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hype is so high for Obama (assuming in the likey event he wins) that he is sure to disappoint. The biggest problem I see besides that is that with the Dems clearly in charge they will quickly forget that America is centre right country. </p>
<p>On the other hand perhaps America will wind up with Universal Healthcare (aka socialist medicine)</p>
<p>who knows</p>
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		<title>By: deepali</title>
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		<dc:creator>deepali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this post slightly irresponsible.  I wouldn&#039;t say this is the most important election - EVERY election is important.  That is because we aren&#039;t just voting for a president, but also members of Congress, perhaps State officials, and local and municipal officials.  All of our elected officials do indeed have an effect on our lives, even if they aren&#039;t the sole deciding factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this post slightly irresponsible.  I wouldn&#8217;t say this is the most important election &#8211; EVERY election is important.  That is because we aren&#8217;t just voting for a president, but also members of Congress, perhaps State officials, and local and municipal officials.  All of our elected officials do indeed have an effect on our lives, even if they aren&#8217;t the sole deciding factor.</p>
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