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		<title>By: Zanne</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/02/13/teaching-kids-about-money/comment-page-1/#comment-18303</link>
		<dc:creator>Zanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had about 3 rounds with my daughter in the grocery store over the candy at checkout (wonder why it&#039;s there?), and was fortunate in that she gave up as the answer was always no.  It was difficult to stick to that no, but truthfully the calories are not beneficial and sometimes yes, sometimes no would not be beneficial to her character either.

I give her an allowance equal to $1 for every year of age per week.  I make her put 10% to charity and 10% to her savings account.  I also make her bank 10% of her gifts from Xmas, bday as well.  She is 12 and has $5600 in her own bank account. I deposit $25 per month in it, but the rest is “her” money.   I give her the envie to open when the statement comes in and we go over it to see the interest payment and to balance the deposit slips against it as well.  She decided that the purpose of her rainy day account is to pay for her wedding (in the very far distant future, I hope).  I also stopped buying comic books, videos, games, music, etc., for her when I started the allowance.  I do still buy real books for her, but all the fluff she wants, she buys.  She figured out in a hurry that a used Nintendo game plays just as well as a brand new one!  I also make her save up to pay for her friends&#039; Xmas gifts, while I pay for the ones for family.  She has learned how to save up for big ticket items, where I match her dollar for dollar. She got a wii that way, and the parental unit gets to use it too as it is half ours.  We have also had discussion about stocks and the market; her grandmom gave her a few shares of stock and we look that up periodically and talk about how the price gets set, etc.  I also get her to help me “do the math” at the grocery store and help evaluate which products are okay in store brand and which need to be name brand for taste or perceived value.  I think I will take an idea from a prior commenter and send her off with the coupons to “hunt and destroy” the grocery list - that&#039;s an excellent idea!

I have also made it a point to discuss the cost of living with her -- here&#039;s the rent, the car payment, the cost of fuel, the cost of food, insurance -- as well as explaining why we have to have them ( we can&#039;t walk to work; what insurance is, etc.).  I have not told her the dollar amounts of either my pay or our bills, but we have plugged in examples based on minimum wage, and she can&#039;t see how one could live on that!  I told her flat out she would have to go for more education to hopefully get better pay and that seems to have piqued her interest as well.  We have also had discussions about debt and how debt is bad, etc., which may not stick.  I have refused to “loan” her money and have refused to advance her allowance, too. I also make her work in my office, for which I pay her, with a check.  She doesn&#039;t like doing the work, but I ignore that, as she loves the check!

I don&#039;t know if any of this will set a habit for the future, but I hope that it will at least make money management easier for her, and that she won&#039;t be so scared when it&#039;s her turn to deal with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had about 3 rounds with my daughter in the grocery store over the candy at checkout (wonder why it&#8217;s there?), and was fortunate in that she gave up as the answer was always no.  It was difficult to stick to that no, but truthfully the calories are not beneficial and sometimes yes, sometimes no would not be beneficial to her character either.</p>
<p>I give her an allowance equal to $1 for every year of age per week.  I make her put 10% to charity and 10% to her <a href="http://frugaldad.com/recommends/allybank" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://allybank.com';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">savings account</a>.  I also make her bank 10% of her gifts from Xmas, bday as well.  She is 12 and has $5600 in her own bank account. I deposit $25 per month in it, but the rest is “her” money.   I give her the envie to open when the statement comes in and we go over it to see the interest payment and to balance the deposit slips against it as well.  She decided that the purpose of her rainy day account is to pay for her wedding (in the very far distant future, I hope).  I also stopped buying comic books, videos, games, music, etc., for her when I started the allowance.  I do still buy real books for her, but all the fluff she wants, she buys.  She figured out in a hurry that a used Nintendo game plays just as well as a brand new one!  I also make her save up to pay for her friends&#8217; Xmas gifts, while I pay for the ones for family.  She has learned how to save up for big ticket items, where I match her dollar for dollar. She got a wii that way, and the parental unit gets to use it too as it is half ours.  We have also had discussion about stocks and the market; her grandmom gave her a few shares of stock and we look that up periodically and talk about how the price gets set, etc.  I also get her to help me “do the math” at the grocery store and help evaluate which products are okay in store brand and which need to be name brand for taste or perceived value.  I think I will take an idea from a prior commenter and send her off with the coupons to “hunt and destroy” the grocery list &#8211; that&#8217;s an excellent idea!</p>
<p>I have also made it a point to discuss the cost of living with her &#8212; here&#8217;s the rent, the car payment, the cost of fuel, the cost of food, insurance &#8212; as well as explaining why we have to have them ( we can&#8217;t walk to work; what insurance is, etc.).  I have not told her the dollar amounts of either my pay or our bills, but we have plugged in examples based on minimum wage, and she can&#8217;t see how one could live on that!  I told her flat out she would have to go for more education to hopefully get better pay and that seems to have piqued her interest as well.  We have also had discussions about debt and how debt is bad, etc., which may not stick.  I have refused to “loan” her money and have refused to advance her allowance, too. I also make her work in my office, for which I pay her, with a check.  She doesn&#8217;t like doing the work, but I ignore that, as she loves the check!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if any of this will set a habit for the future, but I hope that it will at least make money management easier for her, and that she won&#8217;t be so scared when it&#8217;s her turn to deal with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristy @ Master Your Card</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/02/13/teaching-kids-about-money/comment-page-1/#comment-18168</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristy @ Master Your Card</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are all fantastic activities and ideas to share with parents. I spend a lot of time trying to helping college-age young adults through their first financial crisis because their parents never taught them about managing money and I wonder why it is most parents don&#039;t. Is it just something that parents don&#039;t consider, or is it a hard topic to broach like sex and drugs? 

My nephew&#039;s at that age now where he asks for everything under the sun and cries when he doesn&#039;t get his way. My sister just ignores him. I don&#039;t know how she tunes the wailing out, personally, it drives me nuts! So, I&#039;ve been trying several activities like making the list and letting him pick the product based on the amount he can spend. I&#039;ve also been teaching him to look for in-store coupons. I don&#039;t think this has really sunk in all the way as he seems to think that by his spending less on the groceries there&#039;s more money to spend on what he wants, he is at least learning the concepts and the ability to rationalize that there is money left over. Now we just need to focus on saving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are all fantastic activities and ideas to share with parents. I spend a lot of time trying to helping college-age young adults through their first financial crisis because their parents never taught them about managing money and I wonder why it is most parents don&#8217;t. Is it just something that parents don&#8217;t consider, or is it a hard topic to broach like sex and drugs? </p>
<p>My nephew&#8217;s at that age now where he asks for everything under the sun and cries when he doesn&#8217;t get his way. My sister just ignores him. I don&#8217;t know how she tunes the wailing out, personally, it drives me nuts! So, I&#8217;ve been trying several activities like making the list and letting him pick the product based on the amount he can spend. I&#8217;ve also been teaching him to look for in-store coupons. I don&#8217;t think this has really sunk in all the way as he seems to think that by his spending less on the groceries there&#8217;s more money to spend on what he wants, he is at least learning the concepts and the ability to rationalize that there is money left over. Now we just need to focus on saving.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/02/13/teaching-kids-about-money/comment-page-1/#comment-18073</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been carrying out your second suggestion for a while now.  When my kids help with the grocery shopping I give them parts of the list.  They go around, comparison shop, and bring me the items I&#039;ve asked for.  If I give them a coupon, they know to compare the price of the brand name   coupon vs. the store brand.  They also know to report the price of the item they&#039;ve selected so we can add it to the running total.  Nothing goes over $100 for the week or they help select what gets put back.  If they ask for something extra, they know they have to wait until the entire list is purchased to see if there&#039;s $ leftover.  

My kids have thrived on the sense of empowerment and independence they get going through the store together on their own and having some input and control over what&#039;s on the menu that week.  The side effect is they also have an acute awareness of how much food costs and how their choices affect the family budget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been carrying out your second suggestion for a while now.  When my kids help with the grocery shopping I give them parts of the list.  They go around, comparison shop, and bring me the items I&#8217;ve asked for.  If I give them a coupon, they know to compare the price of the brand name   coupon vs. the store brand.  They also know to report the price of the item they&#8217;ve selected so we can add it to the running total.  Nothing goes over $100 for the week or they help select what gets put back.  If they ask for something extra, they know they have to wait until the entire list is purchased to see if there&#8217;s $ leftover.  </p>
<p>My kids have thrived on the sense of empowerment and independence they get going through the store together on their own and having some input and control over what&#8217;s on the menu that week.  The side effect is they also have an acute awareness of how much food costs and how their choices affect the family budget.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason from MoneyTheory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason from MoneyTheory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 07:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is so incredibly important for younger people to learn financial responsibility at an early age.  I think it should start small when they are in elementary school, and then as they get older, gradually introduce more complex things like mortgages, insurance, credit cards, etc.  So basically, after many years of parental education on many things financial, they can go out in the real world with an arsenal of tools which can help them avoid many pitfalls related to money and keep them on the road of financial stability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is so incredibly important for younger people to learn financial responsibility at an early age.  I think it should start small when they are in elementary school, and then as they get older, gradually introduce more complex things like mortgages, insurance, credit cards, etc.  So basically, after many years of parental education on many things financial, they can go out in the real world with an arsenal of tools which can help them avoid many pitfalls related to money and keep them on the road of financial stability.</p>
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		<title>By: Boomer</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/02/13/teaching-kids-about-money/comment-page-1/#comment-18051</link>
		<dc:creator>Boomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 03:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I opened a joint checking account)with debit card privileges) with my daughter when she was 13. Our credit union facilitate this; I found banks would not.

My rules were simple:

1) She started with a $50 cushion
2) I made a quarterly deposit into her account
3) 10% of the deposit had to be transferred into savings
4) 10% of the deposit went to charity of her choice
5) If her balance ever went below the $50 cushion, she would forfeit the next quarter&#039;s allowance

She&#039;s nearly 17 now and has never dipped below the $50 minimum.

I&#039;m a proud Dad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I opened a joint checking account)with debit card privileges) with my daughter when she was 13. Our credit union facilitate this; I found banks would not.</p>
<p>My rules were simple:</p>
<p>1) She started with a $50 cushion<br />
2) I made a quarterly deposit into her account<br />
3) 10% of the deposit had to be transferred into savings<br />
4) 10% of the deposit went to charity of her choice<br />
5) If her balance ever went below the $50 cushion, she would forfeit the next quarter&#8217;s allowance</p>
<p>She&#8217;s nearly 17 now and has never dipped below the $50 minimum.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a proud Dad.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was fortunate that my parents financially supported me my whole life growing up.  But I do also appreciate the fact that I was not spoiled, and they taught me the value of a dollar.  Things that I wanted I still needed to save and pay.  It has helped me a lot now that I am a bit older and my mentality towards money and savings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was fortunate that my parents financially supported me my whole life growing up.  But I do also appreciate the fact that I was not spoiled, and they taught me the value of a dollar.  Things that I wanted I still needed to save and pay.  It has helped me a lot now that I am a bit older and my mentality towards money and savings.</p>
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		<title>By: Delicious House</title>
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		<dc:creator>Delicious House</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think that totaling up how much is costs to keep your kids and sharing it with them might have a negative effect? I only ask because my husband&#039;s family was continually in the red throughout his childhood and youth, and the kids were very aware of how much is cost to feed and shelter them. The money was too badly managed to afford health care or even regular meals, and he&#039;s told me stories about having pneumonia or needing stitches and just not going to the doctor because he felt so guilty about how much it would cost his family. 

I want my kids to be aware of and knowledgeable about money, and I want them to use it wisely, but I also don&#039;t want them to develop a guilt complex about their cost of living. Saying something along the lines of &quot;see how much it costs me to keep you? So stop begging for gum at the grocery store!&quot; seems to send the wrong message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think that totaling up how much is costs to keep your kids and sharing it with them might have a negative effect? I only ask because my husband&#8217;s family was continually in the red throughout his childhood and youth, and the kids were very aware of how much is cost to feed and shelter them. The money was too badly managed to afford health care or even regular meals, and he&#8217;s told me stories about having pneumonia or needing stitches and just not going to the doctor because he felt so guilty about how much it would cost his family. </p>
<p>I want my kids to be aware of and knowledgeable about money, and I want them to use it wisely, but I also don&#8217;t want them to develop a guilt complex about their cost of living. Saying something along the lines of &#8220;see how much it costs me to keep you? So stop begging for gum at the grocery store!&#8221; seems to send the wrong message.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another tip I have always read was to use cash in front of your kids. A lot of kids and teens think the credit card is a magical card that you never have to pay back.

Just the other day I was in a store and I heard a little girl say &quot;but they take credit card&quot; after her mom said the item was too expensive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another tip I have always read was to use cash in front of your kids. A lot of kids and teens think the credit card is a magical card that you never have to pay back.</p>
<p>Just the other day I was in a store and I heard a little girl say &#8220;but they take credit card&#8221; after her mom said the item was too expensive!</p>
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		<title>By: Suburban Dollar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suburban Dollar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DDFD I agree completely that other people make it harder, that is why I try to make sure my Child is the best example he can be... it doesn&#039;t always work very well cause kids will be kids and I can&#039;t fault him for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DDFD I agree completely that other people make it harder, that is why I try to make sure my Child is the best example he can be&#8230; it doesn&#8217;t always work very well cause kids will be kids and I can&#8217;t fault him for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant Baldwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant Baldwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a speaker for high school and college students, so I address the issue of money a lot in my keynotes and workshops.  I continue to be amazed at the lack of financial education that students receive both inside the classroom and at home.  In my business, we&#039;re working on a couple of new projects that will hopefully help students learn more about handling their personal finances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a speaker for high school and college students, so I address the issue of money a lot in my keynotes and workshops.  I continue to be amazed at the lack of financial education that students receive both inside the classroom and at home.  In my business, we&#8217;re working on a couple of new projects that will hopefully help students learn more about handling their personal finances.</p>
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