Adult Children Moving Home

While I have no statistical data to back this, anecdotal evidence tells me that the recession has many young workers moving back in with parents.  Many students recently graduated college with the promise of a hot job market, only to find things frigid in employment land.

Others may be freshly laid off and in need of a place to land until they get back on their feet.  Either way, it can be a tough time for both parents and their grown kids.  Here are a few ideas for smoothing the transition.

Have an end game in mind.  When kids move back home with parents it is a good idea to establish a time line up front – if not for moving out, at least a time to reevaluate things.  This way parents do not get the idea this is a permanent arrangement, and kids are not worried about getting kicked out next week.

Sit down with her and help develop a budget. Make room in the budget for saving money towards a down payment for another home, or the first month’s rent for an apartment. Unless kids have absolutely zero income, let them participate in at least some of the household expenses.  Ask them to pick up groceries a couple times a month, or pay the telephone bill, etc.  This will actually help them budget their earnings by reminding them that these are expenses they will again encounter when living on their own.  Simply blowing entire paychecks is not an option.

If their budget has room, charge rent.  Charging rent to adult children is a controversial topic.  There is no right or wrong answer here, and much of it is situational.  If my kids wanted to return home just to save money, I would probably ask for some help with the mortgage.  If they just went through a divorce, or were let go from a job, or some similar financially devastating experience, I would probably allow more time to get established before asking for rent money.

Some people will argue now is the time for tough love.  They will advise against taking kids back in, and forcing them to fend for themselves.  I guess something could be said for that, but I am a big softy.  If my kids came to me with a big financial mess, and needed a place to temporarily land while they straightened things out, there is no way I could refuse.  Of course, my feeling are somewhat contingent upon their work effort.  If I know they are busting their butt to make things right I could support them fully.  If they wanted to lay around in their room and play Xbox 360, well, that would be a different story!

When and if I did start collecting the rent money, and if I could afford it, I would put the money, or a portion of the money, in a separate account.  I would then return the rent money collected to my child in the form of down payment assistance, or towards a furniture fund when they were ready to move out again.

Agree to a transition period.  It might be difficult to jump from mom and dad’s house back into the real world without some assistance, at least initially.  If you offer financial assistance to get kids back out of the house, again it is a good idea to have an end game in mind.  Let them know up front that you can help them the first three months they are in their apartment, but at the end of that time they need to be earning enough to support themselves.  After all, you have your own retirement to save for, and can only help for so long.

Frugal Camping: My Roots In Frugality

My fondest memories of childhood are around camping trips taken with my grandfather.  Even at an early age, I loved the idea packing up his van and heading for the mountains (and occasionally, the beach).  My grandfather has a love for the mountains, and all things nature.  I can close my eyes and instantly jump back twenty years to imagine a cool, fall morning at an overlook on the Blue Ridge Parkway.  The chill in the air; the quietness of being above traffic; the fresh smell of the air, and of course the beautiful views of the mountains and valleys below.  It’s an image I hope to share more with my own kids.

The Frugal Camper

What I did not realize all those years of camping with my grandfather was that he was really preparing me to grow up to be a frugalist.  Instead of buying a giant RV or trailer, like most people we stayed next to along the way in campgrounds, my grandfather outfit his GMC van to handle all our camping needs.  In fact, he did it twice.  He kept that first van eighteen years, and the second is now nineteen years-old.

Before joining the Marines, my grandfather spent a lot of time in and around carpentry, and I’m convinced he could build just about anything.  After buying the second van, he spent some time building a platform extending the width of the van in the very back that would support a twin mattress.  He then designed a second platform running the length of the van behind the driver’s seat that could support a second twin bed, and could fold up during the day.  It was high enough to store coolers and a couple suitcases underneath.  For privacy, he used blue tarp with well-placed grommets, and a system of clothesline and hooks to cover all the windows.  It really was ingenious.

Frugal Meals On The Road

We cooked 90% of our meals on a camp stove, eating from two coolers that we packed meticulously before departing.  Lunches were cold-cut sandwiches, chips and a drink, and dinners were usually built around a pan-fried meat, along with a starch and mixed vegetable.  A few of our favorites dinners were smoked sausage with red beans and rice, pan-fried chicken with noodles and green beans, and for the last night on the road, a steak and potatoes.

We boiled water after dinner to be used in cleanup, and boiled a second batch that we poured up in a thermos for overnight storage.  In the morning my grandfather had hot water for coffee, and I had hot chocolate, and we shared a Pop-Tart or a bowl of cereal.  We could generally go a week before having to stop for supplies.

Some nights we had electricity and running water, but other nights we stayed in campgrounds that did not.  We passed the time before and after dinner learning games like chess, backgammon and poker (my mom was not thrilled with me learning poker at such a young age, but we played for chips instead of cash).  My grandfather introduced me to classical music, and helped cultivate my love of reading.

Technology, Who Needs It?

Most trips were to the Smokies and back, usually less than a week around a school break.  One time we headed all the way to Niagra Falls, then across Vermont and New Hampshire, and back along the East Coast with stops in Maine, New York, Boston, and Washington, D.C.  Even for that extended two-week trip we survived on the contents of our van.  No television, no cell phones, only a few restaurants (if the weather was bad), and for several nights, no electricity.

Can you imagine taking a similar trip today with no cell phones, no GPS units, no televisions, no iPods, and no laptop?  Of course, today these things can easily be transported, but that doesn’t make it is a good thing.  After all, it is hard to appreciate the nature that surrounds you with your head buried in a computer screen all day.  It is hard to hear the gentle stream running over the rocks with music blaring in your ear buds.  It is hard to get lost in an adventure trying to find a waterfall, and stumbling on a beautiful, unadvertised view with the help of a GPS unit.  Believe it or not, some things are more fun without technology.

I hope one day soon I can take my own kids on a frugal adventure like the ones I went on growing up.  And I hope to inspire the same frugality in my kids that my grandfather instilled in me at an early age.  Oh, and that old van?  I still drive it to and from work today.  It is nineteen years-old, and besides a busted radio and a few creaks here and there, she still runs just fine.  Some mornings when I get to work I glance back at the old beds, the built in closet, and those old red coolers that served as our rolling refrigerators, and smile.

Marriage and Money: Who Handles The Bills?

After a couple ties the knot one of the more important things that has to be settled is who will handle the bills.  I’m in favor of both husbands and wives being involved in the finances, but in most relationships there is one person who will take the lead.

In the Frugal household, I am the nerd.  I enjoy reading and learning about money.  I keep up with the market (as painful as it is these days) and try to learn more about various investing vehicles.  Right now our main priority is becoming debt free and building an emergency fund, but once that is in place we plan to really pour on the savings.  My wife is involved in any major financial decisions, but I typically handle the mechanical transactions like balancing our checkbook, scheduling payments, writing out checks, etc.  She’s happy with that, but honestly I would like her to be more involved.

Recently, I created a list of accounts and passwords and we sat down together to make sure she knew where everything was, financially.  We reviewed insurance policies, debts and savings, and went over how to handle things in the event something happened to me.  I’m ashamed to say this was the first such discussion since early 2007 when I had rotator cuff surgery.  We should really make it a point to review these types of things more frequently.

One piece of advice I would give to other couples in our situation is to give your spouse one small piece of the finances to manage.  In our case, my wife now handles all of our household bills and utility payments.  I take care of the big-picture stuff–retirement contributions, debt payments, college savings for the kids, etc.

Ultimately, I would like for us both to be equally involved in all aspects of our financial plan, but it’s not really feasible with two kids and a busy schedule.  Let’s face it, most days the last thing you want to do is get together to enter transactions in Quicken, or schedule an extra payment on your car, so I typically handle those types of things and we communicate on where we stand.

Here are some additional tips on managing money as a couple:

  • Have a budget meeting at least once a month to discuss upcoming expenses.  My wife might not know I’m planning to buy new tires for our car next month, and I might know that money is due for yearbooks and soccer registration.  Failing to plan for these types of expenditures can lead to debt, or even worse, marital strife.
  • Non-working spouses need to be just as involved.  For some reason, stay-at-home moms and dads are often left out of the picture because they do not “earn” an income.  They should be just as involved in the financial decision-making as the income-earning spouse.  After all, it isn’t my money and her money, it’s our money.
  • Both couples should have an open view to debts.  Hiding debt is one of the worst things you can do.  I know, because I hid aspects of our debt totals from my wife because I didn’t want to worry her.  Instead, I shouldered all the worry and resented her for spending money that I had planned for debt repayment.  The best thing I ever did was come completely clean about where we stood so we could develop a game plan together for tackling our debts.
  • Do not keep a financial scorecard.  Occasionally, my wife and I get caught up in trying to see who can out-save the other.  If one of us spends money on something, the other reminds them of it and it can lead to an argument.  Best to allow both spouses to have a little “blow money” in their envelope system and not ask questions about how the money was spent, or how much something cost.
  • Talk openly about your financial goals.  I want to retire early and do something that I am passionate about – with or without a salary.  To be in that position we will have to work hard to clear all of our debts, including the mortgage, and then build a sizable nest egg to live off while I pursue other goals.  Fortunately, my wife’s goals line up well since she hopes to one day help with grand kids and enjoy some traveling that we haven’t had a chance to do early in our marriage.

Ask the reader:  Who handles the money in your household, and why?

Checkup On 2009 Goals

2009 is now about 45 days old, so I thought I would put together a brief checkup on where I stand with my goals for 2009.  To be brutally honest, I’m not doing that well.

Some of the early struggles have been influenced by outside events, and some is attributable to my just plain being lazy.  For those who have been following for a while, you may remember that my mom suffered a life-threatening aneurysm and stroke last fall.  She had a setback recently and is currently hospitalized.  When things like that happen it makes tracking blogging income seem trivial, but in some ways it motivates me even more so that I can be there to help my mom when she needs it.  That is what family is about, and that’s why I am thankful I started blogging when I did.

Goal One:  Downsizing Our Home

We’ve decided to sit tight on this one, despite my desire to lessen the mortgage payment and cull some of our stuff.  We are considering a way to accomplish both without moving by refinancing with a little money down, and having a massive spring cleaning over the next few weeks.

Whether or not we refinance depends on a number of factors including my mom’s health (we live very close now, and would be reluctant to move if she needs our help, long-term), our local economy (the money we would use to refi might be better off stashed away in our emergency fund), and things like school zoning and a few other minor considerations.

We will probably stay put through this summer and reevaluate this goal later in the year.  However, we still plan to get rid of some of the stuff occupying our space and cluttering our lives.  I’ve come to really enjoy giving things away and having yard sales, something I’m told terrifies a scrabooking wife with a small fortune invested over the years in various supplies!  It’s okay honey, I promise not to toss anything scrapbook-related if you promise not to mess with my unsightly collection of scrap wood.  After all, some things are simply “off limits!”

Goal Two: Wake Up At 4:30AM

Remember the part where I blamed laziness for failure to accomplish some of these major 2009 goals?  This would be that goal.  For a while I was consistently getting up around 4:30-5:00am.  But over time my bedtime slid further back, the alarm clock seemed to ring earlier and earlier, and my bed felt cozier on these cold winter mornings.

I’ve been a night-owl my whole life – staying up late to finish a movie, or work on side hustles, or read a good book that I can’t put down. I seem to function better staying up later than I do getting up earlier, assuming the amount of sleep is the same.

So perhaps my new goal should read, “Go To Bed At 1:00am.” Sounds kind of strange, doesn’t it?  The point is that I need a few hours of quiet house to write, and I can either do it late at night or early in the morning. I think I’ll stick with burning midnight oil for now, but maybe this summer I’ll try to switch back so I can workout in the morning and get in a little writing, too.

Goal Three:  Double Blogging Goals From 2008

Of the three goals, this is probably the one I’ve made the most progress with, thanks in large part to all of you!  I still have some work to do on the income side, but subscribers and traffic stats are increasing steadily.

Attract 7,000 subscribers:  With close to 5,800 subscribers (depending on which day you visit), I’ve already added close to 1,000 subscribers this year.  Of course, that pace will slow, but it is a good start.

Receive 250,000 page views per month:  I finished the last couple months of 2008 averaging 125k page views per month.  FrugalDad.com broke 150k page views in January (151,242 to be exact), and is on pace to come close to 150k in this short month of February.

Earn 100% of my regular, full-time earnings from blogging:  Earnings were up slightly from 50% to 56% of my full-time income, so still plenty of work left to do here if I ever want to become a problogger.

I started a second blog, SideHustleBlogging.com, in an effort to diversify my earnings from blogs, and I received my first payment for an offline freelance article published in Acreage magazine.  The article appears in this month’s edition, and is titled 25 Ways to Save Money in 2009.  Hopefully this will lead to additional freelance opportunities, so I can diversify my side hustle earnings from writing in general, not just blogging.

I’m blessed to have this safety net from blogging, and hope that sharing some of my success along the way will encourage you to find your own side hustle.  If I lost my full-time job for some reason, we could eat on my blogging earnings, but not much else at this point.  Unfortunately, there are some folks out there that are looking for their next meal.  I am reminded to be thankful that I do have a full-time job and a part time gig that pays relatively well.

Weekly Roundup: Happy Valentine’s Day Edition

Happy Valentine’s Day to all the love birds out there.  My wife and I enjoyed a dinner at Outback Steakhouse last night, compliments of a gift card my mother-in-law gave us for Christmas.  It was nice to have a night out just to ourselves, and I was happy because the early-bird specials were available until 6:00pm Monday through Friday!

Other than the ProFlowers I ordered for my wife, which arrived yesterday, we decided to forgo Valentine’s Day gifts as we continue our push for debt freedom and a fully funded emergency fund by the end of this year.  I know it isn’t very romantic, but the added feeling of security from debt freedom is worth it.  Besides, next year we just might take a short, debt-free trip to celebrate Valentine’s Day with financial freedom!

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