Lending Club Review

I am now an official member of the peer to peer lending scene at Lending Club.  Over the last couple years I have read a lot of positive reviews of sites like Lending Club, but never fully investigated the opportunities to participate in peer to peer lending there.  Between the daily drum of stock market decline and notices of savings account rate reductions, I finally decided it was time to review my portfolio mix and find an alternative place to park a small bit of cash, and the peer to peer lending scene at Lending Club seemed attractive enough.

Since I am a complete novice at social lending, but not the lending side of business (I worked in credit for several years), I decided to start small with a $100 investment and review my performance after a few months. I signed up for an investing account at Lending Club, funded my first $100 via my linked bank account, and I was off.

One of the things I like about Lending Club is the ability to spread your investment across a number of individual loans through a tool called LendingMatch.  Think of it as a mutual fund for lenders – you select the criteria for borrowers you are interested in loaning money to and the desired range of interest rate, and LendingMatch returns a number of loans meeting your criteria. You can then invest in a single loan, or fund a fraction of dozens of loans to spread out the risk.

Risk/Reward Model

Big banks often get beat up for charging excessive interest rates. I know I’ve griped about it enough here at Frugal Dad.  But social lending puts you on the “other side of the desk.” You scrutinize borrowers a little more closely, and review their stats, when some of your own skin is in the game. You expect to make a little more in interest for a high-risk borrower than you would someone who appears to be a lock for paying in full and on time.

As with any investing, there are risks with peer-to-peer lending.  Borrowers could default on the loan and you could potentially lose your investment, so it pays to scrutinize potential Lending Club borrowers closely and balance a portfolio of both low and high risk borrowers.

Personal Stories Are Compelling

In addition to the chance at earning a decent rate of return on my investment, I also like the idea of funding someone’s dream, or helping them consolidate debt at a decent rate to pay off accounts with outrageous interest charged by their credit card issuer.

At Lending Club lenders have the ability to review borrowers’ profiles which includes their credit score range, income (which Lending Club reviews for legitimacy), and a personal story from the borrower looking for a loan. I can usually review the profiles and line them up next to the numbers to separate those genuinely interested in borrowing and paying back money, and those looking for a handout.

I’ll report back in a few weeks to let you know how my loans are performing. So far, so good!  If you are interested in joining me at Lending Club, simply follow the banner below to sign up.

Saving For Retirement

My daydreams about retirement have evolved over the years.  When I was younger I thought retirement meant spending most of the day on the fairways and the afternoons at the 19th hole. Or maybe trolling the waters of a big lake in a nice fishing boat sharing stories with an also-retired friend.  So saving for retirement was centered around these same activities.

Cantigny Golf Course, Wheaton, Illinois
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When I got a little older my dreams graduated to a grand retirement played out in an expensive condo on the beach, or a million-dollar cabin in the mountains.  After I got a job, got married, and had two kids I quickly realized this idea of a luxurious retirement was not very realistic. My early ideas were shaped more by the movies than the real world.

Now that I’m a “thirty-something” (and old enough to remember the television show by the same name), my dreams for retirement are more centered around spending time with family. I’d like to do a little traveling (nothing glamorous, and mostly domestic), and spend some time working with young people by either coaching or teaching, or some combination. While my retirement plans are still a little vague, I am certain that I do not want to still be working in the corporate world in my old age.

To make my dream of financial independence a reality, I need to put a number on it, and devise a plan to hit that number in a reasonable amount of time.  Lots of theories out there on how to calculate your “number,” and depending on the formula used there is some fluctuation in the amount required. However, this is a case where being in the same ballpark is close enough for me, so I don’t overly concern myself with the math.

The 4% Rule

To demonstrate the 4% rule I’ll use a fictitious 30 year-old worker named Dan.  Dan works as a software engineer by day, and builds decks and fences on the weekends.  He earns $80,000 a year for his combined efforts. Ideally, Dan would like to reach financial independence at 50 years-old and spend his time modifying homes for those with disabilities – things like building wheelchair ramps, widening doorways, and similar accessibility features.  The service would represent a combination of his love for carpentry and a call to service Dan has wanted to fulfill his entire life.  What kind of nest egg would Dan need to pull this off?

The rule of 4% uses a couple assumptions, some of which are hard to justify in our current market conditions. In a typical market, it is not unreasonable to expect a 10%-12% annual return on a portfolio of stock market investments. That means you can safely withdraw 4% of your portfolio each year and not reduce your principal balance, even after accounting for inflation.

Anything earned above the 4% withdrawal and the rate of inflation grows your balance even higher (with the idea that you may have to increase withdrawals later to cover increased medical costs, insurance premiums, etc. as you get older).

To figure out the number required to maintain your current style of living, divide your current income by a factor of 0.04. In Dan’s case, maintaining an $80,000 yearly income would require a $2 million nest egg. But Dan is a frugal guy, and he and his wife plan to pay off the mortgage early – in their early 40′s. They buy older, used cars and trucks with cash, and have managed to pay off credit cards they ran up in their twenties.  They could easily live on $50,000 a year.

Running the formula again reveals Dan would only need $1.25 million to become financially independent.  He could withdraw a guaranteed $50,000 a year, or in years where his new business earned money he may not have to touch the nest egg at all.

Is 4% Too Much To Expect?

As I mentioned, the 4% formula uses some long-held assumptions about investments that may or may not be true in the coming decade.  I personally look for things to turn around in the next two years, but that doesn’t mean we’ll see a repeat of the “irrational exuberance” of the last 90s in the market. I think going forward investors will slowly have their confidence restored, but because it will take some time we can probably expect lower rates of return than in previous periods.

I also expect inflation to rise at a faster pace in the next few years.  Actually, I expect currency deflation to occur, but the net result is the same – future dollars will be worth much less than they are today.  The rise in inflation, coupled with lower expected yields from the market, mean it might be asking too much to expect to withdraw 4% from your nest egg without lowering your principal.

So What’s My Number?

My lifestyle lines up pretty well with Dan in that I hope to be living completely debt free by 50 – no credit cards, no car loans, and no mortgage.  If I can get to that point, my lifestyle needs will be fairly basic, and we could live very comfortably on $40,000-$50,000 per year (in fact, we could probably live on much less, but I’m being conservative here).

Reducing my expected withdrawal rate to 2-3% means I would need between $1.5 million and $2 million to live comfortably on $40,000-$50,000 a year.  I’ll split the difference and make my goal for financial independence $1.75 million.  Looks like I’ll need a few more side hustles.

The Cost Of Watching Television

Last January, when our financial turnaround was just getting underway, we decided as a family to scale back our cable service to the basic package.  We cut out some sixty channels of programming and were reduced to local programming only.  But we did save about $35 a month in the process (the difference between expanded and basic cable).


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We survived that year without expanded cable service, and only missed the channels a few times.  In fact, as the year wore on we hardly missed those channels at all. We all made sacrifices.  My wife gave up TLC and some of her favorite shows (Jon and Kate Plus 8, Little People, Big World, etc.).  My kids gave up the Disney Channel, the Cartoon Network, etc. I survived (barely) an entire college football season without ESPN, and a highly-charged presidential election without cable news.

Before long we were enjoying more quality family time, and all of us were more appreciative of the programming we did have available.  I began to watch PBS for the first time since I was a kid, discovering shows on things that interest me like gardening, travel and money management.

The original deal was to go without expanded cable for one year, which we completed in January of 2009.  After giving it some thought, we decided to sign back up for expanded cable service through our cable company.  It would increase our television entertainment bill from $12 a month to $46 a month – certainly not a trivial increase, but one we could make some room for in the budget by scaling back on our Netflix membership, and cutting a couple other categories.

Before I made the move I polled my Twitter followers (who continue to be a great source for this type of information), and found that $46/month was relatively cheap, but far from the most economical packages like the basic plan we were currently on. 

Here’s a summary of the Twitter poll statistics:

  • $57.50. Average cost reported by Twitter followers who currently pay for television programming.
  • $90.00. The most expensive package reported (satellite).
  • $14.00. The cheapest cable package reported, probably for basic cable channels.
  • $0.00. Two individuals reported that they pay nothing for television.  They have no cable or satellite service.  They both mentioned watching programs via Hulu or network websites, and one mentioned he was considering watching only the shows he liked via iTunes.com.  I liked this a-la-cart option, myself!

In the end, we decided to turn the expanded programming back on. After a couple days of catching up with older shows, and watching a few new ones, it occurred to all of us that we were not missing much. Funny how you learn to live without something that you used to think you never could, especially when you have to.

I do not believe television is necessarily bad.  I do think the vast majority of programming is a giant time-suck, in that there are more productive things you could be doing with your limited waking hours.

But there are a few quality programs out there, and we use our cherished TiVo to record the few shows we watch regularly. This helps us watch TV shows faster while skipping past most of the commercials.  Now I just wonder how long we’ll keep the cable connected this time. With us watching fewer and fewer shows, it will be hard to justify this new, higher bill.

Ford Offers Employee $50,000 To Leave


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Near the end of the first hour of the February 23 Dave Ramsey radio show, a Ford employee (Mark) called in with a dilemma.  Ford has offered him an “entrepreneur” buyout package with a $50,000 lump sum payment plus free health insurance for the next five years.  The caller was running a part-time lawn care business and asked Dave if he should take the money and run, or stick it out in the interest of job security.

Ramsey correctly pointed out that if a company is offering people money to leave there is not much job security left.  Very true.  I would go even further to say that there is no such thing as job security – for any of us.

So the decision before Mark is to take the buy out now and work on his lawn care business (or look for another job), or hang around at Ford and hope he isn’t laid off without a buyout offer down the road – a very real possibility these days.

The Numbers

Mark currently earns $70,000 a year at Ford.  By applying the $50,000 lump sum payment to what he owes, he will be debt free but the house.  The lawn care business grossed $30,000 last year while he and his son ran it part time.

I would advise Mark not to use his entire lump sum to pay down debt; at least not right away.  Instead, I would tell him to pay himself a salary from the $50k for the first eight months or so after leaving Ford.  I would go so far as to automate the process by stashing the lump sum in a high-yield savings account, such as the one offered by ING Direct, and schedule bi-monthly transfers to his primary checking account, as if he was still receiving a paycheck from Ford.

When the lawn care business is consistently bringing enough money in to cover his bills (consistently meaning at least three months) then he can pull the trigger on the lump sum and use what’s left to pay down as much debt as possible, minus an emergency fund.

I worked in the lawn care business some in college, and ran my own business as a side hustle for a short time.  It is the epitome of a cyclical business because during spring and summer things are hopping, and by fall they start to taper off.  Over the winter, it’s hard to land a job doing anything other than removing snow or doing landscape projects (pathways, retaining walls, etc.).  For that reason I would recommend Mark save up a large business emergency fund to cover those down months, or to cover a period of illness or injury.  After all, you cannot take any sick days when you work for yourself.

Would I Take the Buyout?

In a heartbeat!  The only thing stopping me from pursuing a freelance career now is our remaining debt and concerns over health insurance.  If someone offered me a $50,000 check and insurance for five years I take it before the ink dried.  But that’s me.  Some people do not have the same tolerance for risk. Some people do not like all the aspects of running your own show.  The marketing, the bookkeeping, the administration, etc. can be a drag to someone who just wants to get their hands dirty.  But that’s part of being an entrepreneur.  You either have to do it yourself, or hire someone to do it for you.

How would you respond if someone made you the same offer?