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	<title>Comments on: 12 Things Our Grandparents Lived Without</title>
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	<description>Tips for living frugal while still having a life</description>
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		<title>By: Margaret Cloud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret Cloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed your post very much. I was wondering if you would mind my posting about this and using your ideas. When I published my post I would give you all the credit. I would like to do this very much and have my friends read about your wonderful grandparents and what they did not have. Thank you for any consideration, please email me and let me know, thanks.

Margaret Cloud</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed your post very much. I was wondering if you would mind my posting about this and using your ideas. When I published my post I would give you all the credit. I would like to do this very much and have my friends read about your wonderful grandparents and what they did not have. Thank you for any consideration, please email me and let me know, thanks.</p>
<p>Margaret Cloud</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Hall</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/06/03/12-things-our-grandparents-lived-without/comment-page-1/#comment-32952</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is such an interesting thread, sometimes the comments section on this blog just takes a life of its own :)

I remember being worried about a friend after not being able to contact her mobile for a few days. When she finally did contact me, she apologized and said she misplaced her phone but didn&#039;t notice until a few days after. I liked that she isn&#039;t as attached/dependent on it as I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is such an interesting thread, sometimes the comments section on this blog just takes a life of its own <img src='http://frugaldad.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I remember being worried about a friend after not being able to contact her mobile for a few days. When she finally did contact me, she apologized and said she misplaced her phone but didn&#8217;t notice until a few days after. I liked that she isn&#8217;t as attached/dependent on it as I am.</p>
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		<title>By: Des</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shouldn&#039;t internet access and a personal computer top your list? Surely your grandfather lived without those...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shouldn&#8217;t internet access and a personal computer top your list? Surely your grandfather lived without those&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Savings Account Rates Girl</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/06/03/12-things-our-grandparents-lived-without/comment-page-1/#comment-26393</link>
		<dc:creator>Savings Account Rates Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way - I only own 1 thing on the list - a cell phone. :) and I&#039;m able to save $1000 every month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way &#8211; I only own 1 thing on the list &#8211; a cell phone. <img src='http://frugaldad.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  and I&#8217;m able to save $1000 every month.</p>
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		<title>By: Savings Account Rates Girl</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/06/03/12-things-our-grandparents-lived-without/comment-page-1/#comment-26391</link>
		<dc:creator>Savings Account Rates Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can definitely imagine a life without all these gadgets even today. I was born in South East Asia (not going to mention the specifics) - in a village and at that time there was no electricity. No one owned anything - at all. Imagine that - and I&#039;m just barely 25 years old rt now. Here in America there so much and people become spoiled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can definitely imagine a life without all these gadgets even today. I was born in South East Asia (not going to mention the specifics) &#8211; in a village and at that time there was no electricity. No one owned anything &#8211; at all. Imagine that &#8211; and I&#8217;m just barely 25 years old rt now. Here in America there so much and people become spoiled.</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. I  think we like to complicate our lives instead of simplifying. 

However, your reasoning on the iPod is a bit weak.  The technology has changed, but buying an iPod is the same thing as buying a Walkman was. Before that, many people did have portable radios so the portable music phenomenon is far from new.  As for buying music while it&#039;s available for free on the radio, even during the Great Depression, people managed to buy records.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I  think we like to complicate our lives instead of simplifying. </p>
<p>However, your reasoning on the iPod is a bit weak.  The technology has changed, but buying an iPod is the same thing as buying a Walkman was. Before that, many people did have portable radios so the portable music phenomenon is far from new.  As for buying music while it&#8217;s available for free on the radio, even during the Great Depression, people managed to buy records.</p>
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		<title>By: Lima</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 01:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, surprisingly I could live with almost everything on the list. The cellphone is the only one that is a different story.

It wouldn&#039;t be necessary now if society was like back then (where there weren&#039;t too many muggers, thieves, robbers, murderers, stalkers, etc) Now that crime is high, a cellphone is usually good for emergencies. Other than that.. cellphones are usually reasons why people get jacked and beat up for.... unfortunately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, surprisingly I could live with almost everything on the list. The cellphone is the only one that is a different story.</p>
<p>It wouldn&#8217;t be necessary now if society was like back then (where there weren&#8217;t too many muggers, thieves, robbers, murderers, stalkers, etc) Now that crime is high, a cellphone is usually good for emergencies. Other than that.. cellphones are usually reasons why people get jacked and beat up for&#8230;. unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: Lima</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 01:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to disagree about the Kindle. Even though they did not have these things yet, I think electronic readers are much more useful than books. Not only that, some are able to light on the screen in dark places, they can store more than one book with the book costing usually less than the physical book itself.. The idea of an electronic reader is portability and not having to buy tons of books that just flood your home..and taking time to sell each one. 

Because they didn&#039;t have it back then, most houses like my grandmother&#039;s are stuff with too many books that are wearing and tearing and they end up being tossed in the trash anyway. Just a thought&lt;3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to disagree about the Kindle. Even though they did not have these things yet, I think electronic readers are much more useful than books. Not only that, some are able to light on the screen in dark places, they can store more than one book with the book costing usually less than the physical book itself.. The idea of an electronic reader is portability and not having to buy tons of books that just flood your home..and taking time to sell each one. </p>
<p>Because they didn&#8217;t have it back then, most houses like my grandmother&#8217;s are stuff with too many books that are wearing and tearing and they end up being tossed in the trash anyway. Just a thought&lt;3</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 21:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do we &quot;need&quot; all of the stuff we have today? We can argue both sides.
Quality of life can be different things to everyone.
I think video games are useless, but since owning a cell phone, I can pick up extra shifts at work that I would have missed, had I received the message late. 

Seriously we can all just get rid of everything, live on a farm, and grow your own food, and gaze the stars, and whittle sticks for fun!! No thanks.

True wealth is being able to live life the way you want to live it.

If I can pay my bills,  save for retirement, why not spend 300 bucks on an Iphone? If having it makes me happy and I am still within my means why not?

As for having millions in the bank, and still sewing buttons on old shirts? If it makes you happy why not, BUT whats the point?

All that money sitting idle, doing nothing for the economy, and besides.....

The Brinks truck does NOT follow the hearse. Once you are dead, that&#039;s it folks.  

It;s ok to buy things that you like if it is within your means to purchase.

Where we go wrong is buying more house than you can afford, and racking up expensive credit card debt, and tapping house equity to pay for it all, banking on permanent home value increases. Sound familiar?

Why have kids? They cost money, and provide almost zero return on equity. In fact they are a severe liability to one&#039;s finances. Hefty price to pay for simple genetic reproduction.

Seriously we have kids because we want to have them , and they provide a lifetime of &quot;life&quot;.

You cant always do things or not do things simply for a dollar value.

Full disclosure:

I have no kids, I think Kindles are stupid, as are Iphones. I love my HD digital cable. I have free GPS (it&#039;s called a map I got free from CAA), and i would rather die than not have a microwave.
I love books, but I borrow them from the library because once they are read and the information has been extracted they become useless.

Why die with millions in the bank?  Pointless.

My goal is to live within my means, and buy the things that make me happy.
With any luck, I will die absolutely broke, and the very last check I write will be to the undertaker, and hopefully it will bounce!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we &#8220;need&#8221; all of the stuff we have today? We can argue both sides.<br />
Quality of life can be different things to everyone.<br />
I think <a href="http://frugaldad.com/recommends/gamefly" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://frugaldad.com/recommends/gamefly';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">video games</a> are useless, but since owning a cell phone, I can pick up extra shifts at work that I would have missed, had I received the message late. </p>
<p>Seriously we can all just get rid of everything, live on a farm, and grow your own food, and gaze the stars, and whittle sticks for fun!! No thanks.</p>
<p>True wealth is being able to live life the way you want to live it.</p>
<p>If I can pay my bills,  save for retirement, why not spend 300 bucks on an Iphone? If having it makes me happy and I am still within my means why not?</p>
<p>As for having millions in the bank, and still sewing buttons on old shirts? If it makes you happy why not, BUT whats the point?</p>
<p>All that money sitting idle, doing nothing for the economy, and besides&#8230;..</p>
<p>The Brinks truck does NOT follow the hearse. Once you are dead, that&#8217;s it folks.  </p>
<p>It;s ok to buy things that you like if it is within your means to purchase.</p>
<p>Where we go wrong is buying more house than you can afford, and racking up expensive <a href="http://frugaldad.com/recommends/debtgoal" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://frugaldad.com/recommends/debtgoal';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">credit card debt</a>, and tapping house equity to pay for it all, banking on permanent home value increases. Sound familiar?</p>
<p>Why have kids? They cost money, and provide almost zero return on equity. In fact they are a severe liability to one&#8217;s finances. Hefty price to pay for simple genetic reproduction.</p>
<p>Seriously we have kids because we want to have them , and they provide a lifetime of &#8220;life&#8221;.</p>
<p>You cant always do things or not do things simply for a dollar value.</p>
<p>Full disclosure:</p>
<p>I have no kids, I think Kindles are stupid, as are Iphones. I love my HD digital cable. I have free GPS (it&#8217;s called a map I got free from CAA), and i would rather die than not have a microwave.<br />
I love books, but I borrow them from the library because once they are read and the information has been extracted they become useless.</p>
<p>Why die with millions in the bank?  Pointless.</p>
<p>My goal is to live within my means, and buy the things that make me happy.<br />
With any luck, I will die absolutely broke, and the very last check I write will be to the undertaker, and hopefully it will bounce!!</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree about many of your items, but disagree about MP3 players (not necessarily Ipods.)

If you own an MP3 player, you can check music CDS and books on CD out of the library, upload them to your MP3 device, and you&#039;re ready to go.  It takes up less space and costs less money than buying the music for yourself, plus it&#039;s better for the environment.

And I&#039;ve purchased a most basic MP3 player for around $10 (and that was 2 years ago), so it&#039;s not as though the cost of the device itself is necessarily prohibitive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about many of your items, but disagree about MP3 players (not necessarily Ipods.)</p>
<p>If you own an MP3 player, you can check music CDS and books on CD out of the library, upload them to your MP3 device, and you&#8217;re ready to go.  It takes up less space and costs less money than buying the music for yourself, plus it&#8217;s better for the environment.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve purchased a most basic MP3 player for around $10 (and that was 2 years ago), so it&#8217;s not as though the cost of the device itself is necessarily prohibitive.</p>
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