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	<description>Tips for living frugal while still having a life</description>
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		<title>By: DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/07/22/how-to-quit-a-job/comment-page-1/#comment-29055</link>
		<dc:creator>DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good advice-- always best have a plan(s) and leave on your own terms . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good advice&#8211; always best have a plan(s) and leave on your own terms . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/07/22/how-to-quit-a-job/comment-page-1/#comment-29007</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 07:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi
My father worked at a job for the best part of forty years which he hated he was in a marriage that was over long before he left. He would have loved to have been an artist or a dairy famer both he has packed away. In recent years he met and became engaged to a woman who regrettable died so we moved to a house which we owned out right. We are no facing compulsory purchase by our local government that says it is not fit to live in. we are surprised as we have no damp or structural problems. However we were built when regulations we no as high spec as they are now, so ironically they all come down on the northern part of the estate because it is now considered the worst part of the district. Dad now will (we hope) have some money of his own but is too deflated to enjoy it. All I can say is this .Go out and follow your dream as there comes a point when it is too late to do so. Good luck in all your life choices may they give you what you need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
My father worked at a job for the best part of forty years which he hated he was in a marriage that was over long before he left. He would have loved to have been an artist or a dairy famer both he has packed away. In recent years he met and became engaged to a woman who regrettable died so we moved to a house which we owned out right. We are no facing compulsory purchase by our local government that says it is not fit to live in. we are surprised as we have no damp or structural problems. However we were built when regulations we no as high spec as they are now, so ironically they all come down on the northern part of the estate because it is now considered the worst part of the district. Dad now will (we hope) have some money of his own but is too deflated to enjoy it. All I can say is this .Go out and follow your dream as there comes a point when it is too late to do so. Good luck in all your life choices may they give you what you need.</p>
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		<title>By: RB @ RichBy30RetireBy40</title>
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		<dc:creator>RB @ RichBy30RetireBy40</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin - You made an excellent point about fake promises.  That has happened to me so many times, and often there was an excuse not to pay.  People can take false truths only for so long, I would say 3 MAX to be exact, before employees start distrusting management.

I hope managers can be honest with their employees and not misguide them.  The older an employee gets, the wiser...... that&#039;s why so many managers like younger, and easily moldable employees so often.

I gotta check out your blog!

Cheers,

RB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin &#8211; You made an excellent point about fake promises.  That has happened to me so many times, and often there was an excuse not to pay.  People can take false truths only for so long, I would say 3 MAX to be exact, before employees start distrusting management.</p>
<p>I hope managers can be honest with their employees and not misguide them.  The older an employee gets, the wiser&#8230;&#8230; that&#8217;s why so many managers like younger, and easily moldable employees so often.</p>
<p>I gotta check out your blog!</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>RB</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin@OutOfYourRut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin@OutOfYourRut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that if employers were reading this thread they&#039;d be a tad nervous about the fact that so many people have actually figured out what they&#039;re up to.

We need to compare notes more often! Might convince a bunch of people that it really is time for a change.  Sometimes all we need is the reassurances of others, letting us know that we aren&#039;t alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that if employers were reading this thread they&#8217;d be a tad nervous about the fact that so many people have actually figured out what they&#8217;re up to.</p>
<p>We need to compare notes more often! Might convince a bunch of people that it really is time for a change.  Sometimes all we need is the reassurances of others, letting us know that we aren&#8217;t alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, but life is too short to have a full time job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, but life is too short to have a full time job!</p>
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		<title>By: RB @ Richby30RetireBy40</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/07/22/how-to-quit-a-job/comment-page-1/#comment-28895</link>
		<dc:creator>RB @ Richby30RetireBy40</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, honest article.  However, now is not the  best time to take risks due to the markets.

Life is too short to do one thing.  The longer one is at their current employer, the harder it may be to leave.  It&#039;s the fear of the unknown.

Rgds,

RB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, honest article.  However, now is not the  best time to take risks due to the markets.</p>
<p>Life is too short to do one thing.  The longer one is at their current employer, the harder it may be to leave.  It&#8217;s the fear of the unknown.</p>
<p>Rgds,</p>
<p>RB</p>
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		<title>By: Squeaky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squeaky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@IRG:

I agree that even the debt-free have expenses and need an income, but that doesn&#039;t mean they must line up a &quot;job&quot; working for a single employer.  Other options exist: side hustles, a working spouse, etc. and they do have to be put in place before quitting.

An honest person ought not go down with a dishonest ship.  But the responsibility of building and maintaining the lifeboat rests with the individual who expects to occupy it later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@IRG:</p>
<p>I agree that even the debt-free have expenses and need an income, but that doesn&#8217;t mean they must line up a &#8220;job&#8221; working for a single employer.  Other options exist: side hustles, a working spouse, etc. and they do have to be put in place before quitting.</p>
<p>An honest person ought not go down with a dishonest ship.  But the responsibility of building and maintaining the lifeboat rests with the individual who expects to occupy it later.</p>
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		<title>By: Valdese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valdese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post and the comments that follow really hit home for me.  I was one of those ethical managers who actually cared about customers and the young people I managed, but I was swimming in the sewer and the sewer rats just wanted more sewage because it supported their livelihood and bonus structure.  If we cleaned out the sewer, they&#039;d have no place to go.  I chose to leave my job and it hasn&#039;t been easy for sure since the economy took a crap, but I don&#039;t regret choosing my happiness over the sewer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post and the comments that follow really hit home for me.  I was one of those ethical managers who actually cared about customers and the young people I managed, but I was swimming in the sewer and the sewer rats just wanted more sewage because it supported their livelihood and bonus structure.  If we cleaned out the sewer, they&#8217;d have no place to go.  I chose to leave my job and it hasn&#8217;t been easy for sure since the economy took a crap, but I don&#8217;t regret choosing my happiness over the sewer.</p>
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		<title>By: marci</title>
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		<dc:creator>marci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, my happiness is more important than a paycheck - but sometimes the two can walk hand in hand... I am happy working fewer hours, therefore, the job I have fits my needs and therefore I am happy with it, even tho the paycheck is less - by choice.

And I think I lot of jobs are just a matter of attitude - if your attitude is great, then usually the job itself will not matter much.  Always look for the positive side of the job, and not the negative side of it, and your attitude towards the job will improve.   At least it has in my experience. 

Again - being debt free gives one a LOT of options and a lot of freedom of choice.  
Try it - you&#039;ll like it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, my happiness is more important than a paycheck &#8211; but sometimes the two can walk hand in hand&#8230; I am happy working fewer hours, therefore, the job I have fits my needs and therefore I am happy with it, even tho the paycheck is less &#8211; by choice.</p>
<p>And I think I lot of jobs are just a matter of attitude &#8211; if your attitude is great, then usually the job itself will not matter much.  Always look for the positive side of the job, and not the negative side of it, and your attitude towards the job will improve.   At least it has in my experience. </p>
<p>Again &#8211; being <a href="http://frugaldad.com/recommends/debtgoal" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://debtgoal.com';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">debt free</a> gives one a LOT of options and a lot of freedom of choice.<br />
Try it &#8211; you&#8217;ll like it <img src='http://frugaldad.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: IRG</title>
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		<dc:creator>IRG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Squeaky, so very well put! 

The other aspect of toxic managers and a work environment is that people who really try to &quot;do the right thing&quot; for customers, etc. are either isolated or &quot;branded&quot; by these toxic people and rendered ineffective and worse. 

Many people may not embrace the tactics of the toxic managers but many will stay silent, to upper management, etc. and in fact, be as more poisonous to the environment than the actual violators. When anyone tries to effect change, alert management, those one or two brave souls, nobody else speaks up and the conclusion is usually: Oh, THESE are the misfits, the naysayers, etc. There&#039;s nothing wrong here. Nothing wrong with X manager. This person is just a loser/complainer.

The sign of a good manager is someone who protects his group, not puts it in danger or leaves the members to fend for themselves. But there aren&#039;t many good managers. Perhaps there never were. And as you noted, they can&#039;t hold their own against a tide of sewage.

Your post was great and I&#039;m sending it to a few &quot;head in the sand&quot; friends, who, I&#039;m sure will pretend it could never apply to them.

Being debt free is a start to being able to leave toxic jobs/work, but the reality is you need another job. Today, so many people are so disillusioned that they believe that most places are bad. So, six of one, half dozen of another and they stay, believing that there are few, if any, better options.

We need a workplace that truly supports humane and professional employers and workplaces. Until that happens, few, if any leave, fearing it&#039;s all the same thing. Usually, they&#039;re probably right.

The rest of us leave because we simply can&#039;t get up each day and deal with toxic types.
							Sorry, forgot to add great post! Can&#039;t wait to see your next post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Squeaky, so very well put! </p>
<p>The other aspect of toxic managers and a work environment is that people who really try to &#8220;do the right thing&#8221; for customers, etc. are either isolated or &#8220;branded&#8221; by these toxic people and rendered ineffective and worse. </p>
<p>Many people may not embrace the tactics of the toxic managers but many will stay silent, to upper management, etc. and in fact, be as more poisonous to the environment than the actual violators. When anyone tries to effect change, alert management, those one or two brave souls, nobody else speaks up and the conclusion is usually: Oh, THESE are the misfits, the naysayers, etc. There&#8217;s nothing wrong here. Nothing wrong with X manager. This person is just a loser/complainer.</p>
<p>The sign of a good manager is someone who protects his group, not puts it in danger or leaves the members to fend for themselves. But there aren&#8217;t many good managers. Perhaps there never were. And as you noted, they can&#8217;t hold their own against a tide of sewage.</p>
<p>Your post was great and I&#8217;m sending it to a few &#8220;head in the sand&#8221; friends, who, I&#8217;m sure will pretend it could never apply to them.</p>
<p>Being <a href="http://frugaldad.com/recommends/debtgoal" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://debtgoal.com';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">debt free</a> is a start to being able to leave toxic jobs/work, but the reality is you need another job. Today, so many people are so disillusioned that they believe that most places are bad. So, six of one, half dozen of another and they stay, believing that there are few, if any, better options.</p>
<p>We need a workplace that truly supports humane and professional employers and workplaces. Until that happens, few, if any leave, fearing it&#8217;s all the same thing. Usually, they&#8217;re probably right.</p>
<p>The rest of us leave because we simply can&#8217;t get up each day and deal with toxic types.<br />
							Sorry, forgot to add great post! Can&#8217;t wait to see your next post!</p>
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