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	<title>Comments on: The Proper Rate Of Savings</title>
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	<description>Tips for living frugal while still having a life</description>
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		<title>By: a. palmer jr.</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/08/07/proper-rate-savings/comment-page-1/#comment-36502</link>
		<dc:creator>a. palmer jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope nobody&#039;s using this as a poll of America&#039;s savings. The people who read these articles are probably not close to a cross section of American savers. I know several people close to 50 years old that haven&#039;t saved a cent. I also know some people who&#039;s debts outweigh their savings. I&#039;ve lived well below my means for most of my adult life, doing with less than I could afford and probably have saved much more than average but I haven&#039;t figured it out to a percent. I do know that when you retire, as I have, it sure feels good knowing you don&#039;t have to worry about paying your bills or where your next meal is coming from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope nobody&#8217;s using this as a poll of America&#8217;s savings. The people who read these articles are probably not close to a cross section of American savers. I know several people close to 50 years old that haven&#8217;t saved a cent. I also know some people who&#8217;s debts outweigh their savings. I&#8217;ve lived well below my means for most of my adult life, doing with less than I could afford and probably have saved much more than average but I haven&#8217;t figured it out to a percent. I do know that when you retire, as I have, it sure feels good knowing you don&#8217;t have to worry about paying your bills or where your next meal is coming from.</p>
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		<title>By: Introducing The Frugal Dad Giving Project &#124; Frugal Dad</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/08/07/proper-rate-savings/comment-page-1/#comment-29897</link>
		<dc:creator>Introducing The Frugal Dad Giving Project &#124; Frugal Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the face and encouraged me to get moving. The first was a comment left on last week&#8217;s post, The Proper Rate of Savings.  &#8221;Philip&#8221; commented, &#8220;I&#8217;d like to see a post on the proper giving [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the face and encouraged me to get moving. The first was a comment left on last week&#8217;s post, The Proper Rate of Savings.  &#8221;Philip&#8221; commented, &#8220;I&#8217;d like to see a post on the proper giving [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/08/07/proper-rate-savings/comment-page-1/#comment-29895</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been disabled most of my adult life, I would have told myself to go get part-time work at age 8 and save as much as possible.  Then, when I got my first full time job, save 90% and live on 10%.

And no, I don&#039;t get SSI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been disabled most of my adult life, I would have told myself to go get part-time work at age 8 and save as much as possible.  Then, when I got my first full time job, save 90% and live on 10%.</p>
<p>And no, I don&#8217;t get SSI.</p>
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		<title>By: DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/08/07/proper-rate-savings/comment-page-1/#comment-29715</link>
		<dc:creator>DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post.  Proper?  Who knows!  This is a moving target that will change at different times.  I have been at 33% in the best, but I am lucky to do 10% these days.  My goal is to return to 20% by the first of the new year and then shoot to return to 33% by the end of next year.  I say aim high!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post.  Proper?  Who knows!  This is a moving target that will change at different times.  I have been at 33% in the best, but I am lucky to do 10% these days.  My goal is to return to 20% by the first of the new year and then shoot to return to 33% by the end of next year.  I say aim high!</p>
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		<title>By: Philip</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/08/07/proper-rate-savings/comment-page-1/#comment-29695</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see a post on the proper giving rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see a post on the proper giving rate.</p>
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		<title>By: Gretchen</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/08/07/proper-rate-savings/comment-page-1/#comment-29681</link>
		<dc:creator>Gretchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the 50% idea in that it kind of shocks people into really thinking deeply about how much money they could really be putting away. If it pushes people to save even 5% more than they are now it has helped them. I also think you have to save in your own way. For example, I almost never go on vacation even though my household income is quite high. I save that money. However, when we bought our most recent home I made sure there was a formal office space in it even though this made us spend a lot more on a house than otherwise. I work at home and can&#039;t have my occasional client see me working in a laundry room or on the living room couch. So my income allows me to make choices like this but I absolutely don&#039;t spend to the limit and anything I spend money on I do with a purpose to making more money. Oh yeah - we&#039;ve bought one new TV in 10 years and that one cost $150. Other people buy TVs for like $2,000!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the 50% idea in that it kind of shocks people into really thinking deeply about how much money they could really be putting away. If it pushes people to save even 5% more than they are now it has helped them. I also think you have to save in your own way. For example, I almost never go on vacation even though my household income is quite high. I save that money. However, when we bought our most recent home I made sure there was a formal office space in it even though this made us spend a lot more on a house than otherwise. I work at home and can&#8217;t have my occasional client see me working in a laundry room or on the living room couch. So my income allows me to make choices like this but I absolutely don&#8217;t spend to the limit and anything I spend money on I do with a purpose to making more money. Oh yeah &#8211; we&#8217;ve bought one new TV in 10 years and that one cost $150. Other people buy TVs for like $2,000!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria Vargas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria Vargas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree that the percentage of savings will necessarily vary per person and family. That said, I think 10% is the smallest that makes sense unless someone is living in abject poverty and in that case every penny may need to go to sheer survival. So, that 10% applies to everyone who are able to provide themselves the basic necessities with a little surplus. I agree with Dave Ramsey&#039;s approach, that once you have $1000 short term emergency savings in the bank, you focus every dime you have on getting out of debt. Once debt-free other than mortgage, deposit every dime you can squeeze out of your living expenses into your savings account until you have a min. of 3 mo expenses accrued. Then, in terms of a regular savings percentage you&#039;d put aside after that, I think the person&#039;s age, years until retirement, and other considerations have to be taken into account. At this stage, though, I&#039;d say a minimum 15-20% should go to savings. Given that I&#039;m 47 with only a few years of insufficient savings under my belt, I&#039;m in the category of needing to make up for lost time - so my saving contributions will necessary be a higher percentage than someone in their 20s who put 10% aside since they were young.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree that the percentage of savings will necessarily vary per person and family. That said, I think 10% is the smallest that makes sense unless someone is living in abject poverty and in that case every penny may need to go to sheer survival. So, that 10% applies to everyone who are able to provide themselves the basic necessities with a little surplus. I agree with <a href="http://frugaldad.com/recommends/thetotalmoneymakeover" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://frugaldad.com/recommends/thetotalmoneymakeover';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">Dave Ramsey</a>&#8217;s approach, that once you have $1000 short term emergency savings in the bank, you focus every dime you have on getting out of debt. Once debt-free other than mortgage, deposit every dime you can squeeze out of your living expenses into your <a href="http://frugaldad.com/recommends/allybank" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://allybank.com';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">savings account</a> until you have a min. of 3 mo expenses accrued. Then, in terms of a regular savings percentage you&#8217;d put aside after that, I think the person&#8217;s age, years until retirement, and other considerations have to be taken into account. At this stage, though, I&#8217;d say a minimum 15-20% should go to savings. Given that I&#8217;m 47 with only a few years of insufficient savings under my belt, I&#8217;m in the category of needing to make up for lost time &#8211; so my saving contributions will necessary be a higher percentage than someone in their 20s who put 10% aside since they were young.</p>
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		<title>By: Generation Y Investor</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/08/07/proper-rate-savings/comment-page-1/#comment-29671</link>
		<dc:creator>Generation Y Investor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyones situation is different so there can&#039;t really be a set rule of thumb.  I think the key is to figure out what your life goals are (ie owning a house, retirement ect) and then save enough that you have a good chance of reaching them.

I&#039;m only 24 and have been saving a large % of my income since I had my first part time job.  That was years ago and now I make a good salary and am able to save about 25% of my gross income.  I&#039;m currently single so that helps but I also make a great effort to make saving/investing a priority.  I don&#039;t deny myself anything I really want but I do realize that it may not be as easy to save a lot in the future when I get married and have kids.  I figure I should take advantage of my situation while I still can!

-Gen Y Investor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyones situation is different so there can&#8217;t really be a set rule of thumb.  I think the key is to figure out what your life goals are (ie owning a house, retirement ect) and then save enough that you have a good chance of reaching them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m only 24 and have been saving a large % of my income since I had my first part time job.  That was years ago and now I make a good salary and am able to save about 25% of my gross income.  I&#8217;m currently single so that helps but I also make a great effort to make saving/investing a priority.  I don&#8217;t deny myself anything I really want but I do realize that it may not be as easy to save a lot in the future when I get married and have kids.  I figure I should take advantage of my situation while I still can!</p>
<p>-Gen Y Investor</p>
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		<title>By: Foxie@CarsxGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foxie@CarsxGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 02:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No way I can save 50% of my income at 21.... I need it to help pay my living expenses while I go to school, plus supplement my husband&#039;s income to do so. Means all I have student loans for is to cover tuition, not food, books, living expenses, etc. (And I&#039;m STILL looking at a hefty sum for it all...)

I do, however, save around 10%... Or try to, anyhow. I put about 7% of my income into a Roth IRA last year. This year I started to put 4% into a 401(k), company matched, and still try for $1k in the IRA. Harder to do when my emergency fund got sapped (car accident) and I bought another car as a project...

But that&#039;s life, and I&#039;ve got years ahead of me to make up for my living instead of saving. ;) (No, I&#039;m not ignorant of saving, I&#039;m just not willing to ruin my youth with the &quot;right&quot; decisions.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No way I can save 50% of my income at 21&#8230;. I need it to help pay my living expenses while I go to school, plus supplement my husband&#8217;s income to do so. Means all I have student loans for is to cover tuition, not food, books, living expenses, etc. (And I&#8217;m STILL looking at a hefty sum for it all&#8230;)</p>
<p>I do, however, save around 10%&#8230; Or try to, anyhow. I put about 7% of my income into a Roth IRA last year. This year I started to put 4% into a 401(k), company matched, and still try for $1k in the IRA. Harder to do when my emergency fund got sapped (car accident) and I bought another car as a project&#8230;</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s life, and I&#8217;ve got years ahead of me to make up for my living instead of saving. <img src='http://frugaldad.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  (No, I&#8217;m not ignorant of saving, I&#8217;m just not willing to ruin my youth with the &#8220;right&#8221; decisions.)</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin@OutOfYourRut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin@OutOfYourRut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marci (17)--I actually agree with you, but I was pointing out why so many people aren&#039;t able to save and why blanket assumptions don&#039;t necessarily hold up in real world conditions.  

If you look at the savings statistics (we&#039;re now UP TO 2.-something percent on the national savings rate) there&#039;s something that&#039;s beyond the scope of &quot;ought to&quot; that&#039;s happening here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marci (17)&#8211;I actually agree with you, but I was pointing out why so many people aren&#8217;t able to save and why blanket assumptions don&#8217;t necessarily hold up in real world conditions.  </p>
<p>If you look at the savings statistics (we&#8217;re now UP TO 2.-something percent on the national savings rate) there&#8217;s something that&#8217;s beyond the scope of &#8220;ought to&#8221; that&#8217;s happening here.</p>
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