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		<title>By: tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my husband is a 25 year tech at a Chrysler dealership. we would never buy a new car... ever. they are poorly made with inherent problems arising from over engineering. all this technology comes at a very expensive price. body problems in brand new cars that cause chronic leaking, adhesive that hold interior trim and door panel pieces that have not been temperature tested and are now popping pieces off of your new car when the weather heats up. computer diagnostics tests that are not only over complicated and expensive, but unreliable. Chrysler may pay our mortgage but a 68 camaro lives in our garage. built like a tank! has lasted 40 years and will hopefully last us 40 more. nvmy68</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my husband is a 25 year tech at a Chrysler dealership. we would never buy a new car&#8230; ever. they are poorly made with inherent problems arising from over engineering. all this technology comes at a very expensive price. body problems in brand new cars that cause chronic leaking, adhesive that hold interior trim and door panel pieces that have not been temperature tested and are now popping pieces off of your new car when the weather heats up. computer diagnostics tests that are not only over complicated and expensive, but unreliable. Chrysler may pay our mortgage but a 68 camaro lives in our garage. built like a tank! has lasted 40 years and will hopefully last us 40 more. nvmy68</p>
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		<title>By: DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice analysis.

The fact that this is a government program should be enough to raise anyone&#039;s suspicions as to the logic of it . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice analysis.</p>
<p>The fact that this is a government program should be enough to raise anyone&#8217;s suspicions as to the logic of it . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello everyone.

My previous posting is #31 if anyone is interested reading.

Now here is another program the government is throwing at you and it is true. &quot;Cash for clunker appliances&quot; if you want to buy new appliances such as a washing machine, stove, dryer, etc... you should go down to Home Depot and ask for a salesman.  You can save $200.00 to $400.00 if you trade in your old clunker appliance.

Now this is a very good program I think.  In my opinion it makes sense, it stimulate jobs and economy because it is not a bailout program like for the auto industry which it caused tax payers billions of dollars already. This program is not putting people in more debts for years to come. I have an old washing machine that stucks halfway every time.  I called several repair men to check on repair costs but each one of them gave me a big quote which cost nearly buying a new washing machine. Then I decided not to fix it and hauled it to the metal scrap yard vendor a few miles down from my house and I sold it for $25.00 for scrap metal.  Then the next day I found out this &quot;cash for clunker appliance&quot; on local TV news.  I went back to the scrap yard buyer and bought it back from him for $20.00.  Well, not from the same guy that I sold to. He sold it to me right away because he had no place to store it.  He had too many old appliances sitting around already and could be weeks before the big metal companies buy back from him. He asked me why the hell I want to buy this piece of crap?  I told him I will fix it myself.  I assumed he didn&#039;t know about the &quot;Cash for clunker appliance&quot; program otherwise he would jacks up the price.  After all I made $5.00 from him. Well, next step on the same day I hauled it to Home Depot and trade it in for a new GE washing machine $549.00 minus $200.00 for a trade-in clunker washing machine.  My new washing machine cost me $349.00.  Couldn&#039;t be happier than that.  Now, you tell me if I am wrong.  Is this &quot;cash for clunker appliance&quot; better than the &quot;cash for clunker car&quot;?  Personally I am ok to drive in a clunker car but I can not stand it wearing dirty cloths.  I like to fix cars but not a washing machine.  

I&#039;d like you to tell me which of the two programs is better?

Thanks
Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everyone.</p>
<p>My previous posting is #31 if anyone is interested reading.</p>
<p>Now here is another program the government is throwing at you and it is true. &#8220;Cash for clunker appliances&#8221; if you want to buy new appliances such as a washing machine, stove, dryer, etc&#8230; you should go down to Home Depot and ask for a salesman.  You can save $200.00 to $400.00 if you trade in your old clunker appliance.</p>
<p>Now this is a very good program I think.  In my opinion it makes sense, it stimulate jobs and economy because it is not a bailout program like for the auto industry which it caused tax payers billions of dollars already. This program is not putting people in more debts for years to come. I have an old washing machine that stucks halfway every time.  I called several repair men to check on repair costs but each one of them gave me a big quote which cost nearly buying a new washing machine. Then I decided not to fix it and hauled it to the metal scrap yard vendor a few miles down from my house and I sold it for $25.00 for scrap metal.  Then the next day I found out this &#8220;cash for clunker appliance&#8221; on local TV news.  I went back to the scrap yard buyer and bought it back from him for $20.00.  Well, not from the same guy that I sold to. He sold it to me right away because he had no place to store it.  He had too many old appliances sitting around already and could be weeks before the big metal companies buy back from him. He asked me why the hell I want to buy this piece of crap?  I told him I will fix it myself.  I assumed he didn&#8217;t know about the &#8220;Cash for clunker appliance&#8221; program otherwise he would jacks up the price.  After all I made $5.00 from him. Well, next step on the same day I hauled it to Home Depot and trade it in for a new GE washing machine $549.00 minus $200.00 for a trade-in clunker washing machine.  My new washing machine cost me $349.00.  Couldn&#8217;t be happier than that.  Now, you tell me if I am wrong.  Is this &#8220;cash for clunker appliance&#8221; better than the &#8220;cash for clunker car&#8221;?  Personally I am ok to drive in a clunker car but I can not stand it wearing dirty cloths.  I like to fix cars but not a washing machine.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like you to tell me which of the two programs is better?</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Tim</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you totally! Why in the world would someone want to go in to debt for a new car now when there is no job security and the economy is as bad as it is. My husband was watching on the internet how they were &quot;clunking&quot; these so called junked cars, and they were perfectly good vehicles that in my opinion could be used for some of the people that are having a hard time right now. People are crazy sometimes..I say why trash something that is paid for to take on a new bill when you don&#039;t know if you will have a way to pay tomorrow. All these people who are buying cars may end up losing them in a few months because they could not afford them in the first place.jmo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you totally! Why in the world would someone want to go in to debt for a new car now when there is no job security and the economy is as bad as it is. My husband was watching on the internet how they were &#8220;clunking&#8221; these so called junked cars, and they were perfectly good vehicles that in my opinion could be used for some of the people that are having a hard time right now. People are crazy sometimes..I say why trash something that is paid for to take on a new bill when you don&#8217;t know if you will have a way to pay tomorrow. All these people who are buying cars may end up losing them in a few months because they could not afford them in the first place.jmo</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott - 21st Century Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliott - 21st Century Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yesterday, I helped a friend pull some parts at the local junkyard. There was a special section for the Cash For Clunkers cars.

The salvage yard has a list of specific parts from a C4C car that are for sale and which parts are not. Obviously, the parts affected by the &quot;euthanization&quot; process are not available. These cars aren&#039;t just scrapped or simply disposed of.

Speaking of which, parts for older cars are still widely available. Manufacturers use many of the same parts for several years of production and across several different models. Each part in a car isn&#039;t uniquely manufactured for each unique vehicle. For example, many Oldsmobile parts will fit on Chevrolets, Buicks, and Pontiacs. Many of those parts are identical.

Fear, uncertainty, and doubt is a classic sales technique. The new car salesman will tell you that your older car is unreliable due to its age. You&#039;ve heard your friends say, &quot;I&#039;d rather have a $300/month payment and peace of mind...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday, I helped a friend pull some parts at the local junkyard. There was a special section for the Cash For Clunkers cars.</p>
<p>The salvage yard has a list of specific parts from a C4C car that are for sale and which parts are not. Obviously, the parts affected by the &#8220;euthanization&#8221; process are not available. These cars aren&#8217;t just scrapped or simply disposed of.</p>
<p>Speaking of which, parts for older cars are still widely available. Manufacturers use many of the same parts for several years of production and across several different models. Each part in a car isn&#8217;t uniquely manufactured for each unique vehicle. For example, many Oldsmobile parts will fit on Chevrolets, Buicks, and Pontiacs. Many of those parts are identical.</p>
<p>Fear, uncertainty, and doubt is a classic sales technique. The new car salesman will tell you that your older car is unreliable due to its age. You&#8217;ve heard your friends say, &#8220;I&#8217;d rather have a $300/month payment and peace of mind&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: marci</title>
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		<dc:creator>marci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris- even economy cars are on the ok trade in list...I was surprised to find my Subaru at 25/29 mpg on the list of approved cars.    Not that I&#039;m trading in a perfectly good 10 yr old car with only 115,000 miles on it - but I just wanted to see what all was on the trade in listings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris- even economy cars are on the ok trade in list&#8230;I was surprised to find my Subaru at 25/29 mpg on the list of approved cars.    Not that I&#8217;m trading in a perfectly good 10 yr old car with only 115,000 miles on it &#8211; but I just wanted to see what all was on the trade in listings.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that whether or not to do &quot;Cash for Clunkers&quot; depends completely on one&#039;s situation.  If someone is driving a vehicle on its last legs and has just been waiting for extra incentive, this program is good (for the most part).  Never should anyone use it, however, if s/he cannot afford what&#039;s to follow in terms of payments and insurance.  I think it&#039;s really important to note that, when buying a new car, the owner is in control of many decisions, especially on how long it will last (proper -- but not over -- maintenance).  

When I was younger, I tended to switch cars every couple of years (much more materialistic then).  I bought my first new car in 1994; it was a Ford Aspire.  It got great gas mileage (40 mpg) and was perfect for a graduate student who was also working full time.  In 1996, I was in an accident that hugely woke me up.  While I loved that little car (presigous by no means), I learned how unprotective it was.  I was driving my little half sister home and another driver ran a stop sign.  Praise God, I saw the car and slammed on the breaks, so it hit the front end. (Had I not, my sister would have been seriously injured).  We both ended up with soft-tissue damage.  I continued to drive the vehicle. Finally in mid-1997, I was in the position to buy a different vehicle, so I purchased a &#039;97 Kia Sportage (new).  I drove it until it was truly on its last legs (where I was spending tons on fixing in 2004).  After parting with $800 here and $500 there, I decided it was time to part.

Rest of the story (with a moral):
I did my homework.  I researched, researched, and researched (and then researched some more).  I also test-drove many vehicles that were top on the list.  I did need an SUV because of my activities.  I ended up purchasing a Jeep Liberty 4x4 Renegade that was specifically designed for bad and off-road conditions.  That was the end of 2004 -- little did I know I would end up in VT two years later. VT has true winters (12&quot; of snow one day followed by 19&quot; is common -- as well as ice storms), and the winter of 2007 had the highest snowfall in its history.  Yet, I never missed a day of work because I couldn&#039;t drive in (30 miles away with lots of hills).  In fact, the day after the &quot;Valentines Day Blizzard&quot; where it snowed 36&quot; in less than 24 hours, I made it to work the next day (only to find the office and factory 1/3 full).  Now I live in Colorado, where the winters aren&#039;t nearly as harsh, but I am glad that I can drive in any condition (whether here in the front range -- only 5,800 ft at my place and 14&#039;ers in the high country).

Moral:
I researched to find a vehicle that would go anywhere.  I bought what I could afford (I paid it off last year).  I bought what I needed.  Need is the important point here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that whether or not to do &#8220;Cash for Clunkers&#8221; depends completely on one&#8217;s situation.  If someone is driving a vehicle on its last legs and has just been waiting for extra incentive, this program is good (for the most part).  Never should anyone use it, however, if s/he cannot afford what&#8217;s to follow in terms of payments and insurance.  I think it&#8217;s really important to note that, when buying a new car, the owner is in control of many decisions, especially on how long it will last (proper &#8212; but not over &#8212; maintenance).  </p>
<p>When I was younger, I tended to switch cars every couple of years (much more materialistic then).  I bought my first new car in 1994; it was a Ford Aspire.  It got great gas mileage (40 mpg) and was perfect for a graduate student who was also working full time.  In 1996, I was in an accident that hugely woke me up.  While I loved that little car (presigous by no means), I learned how unprotective it was.  I was driving my little half sister home and another driver ran a stop sign.  Praise God, I saw the car and slammed on the breaks, so it hit the front end. (Had I not, my sister would have been seriously injured).  We both ended up with soft-tissue damage.  I continued to drive the vehicle. Finally in mid-1997, I was in the position to buy a different vehicle, so I purchased a &#8216;97 Kia Sportage (new).  I drove it until it was truly on its last legs (where I was spending tons on fixing in 2004).  After parting with $800 here and $500 there, I decided it was time to part.</p>
<p>Rest of the story (with a moral):<br />
I did my homework.  I researched, researched, and researched (and then researched some more).  I also test-drove many vehicles that were top on the list.  I did need an SUV because of my activities.  I ended up purchasing a Jeep Liberty 4&#215;4 Renegade that was specifically designed for bad and off-road conditions.  That was the end of 2004 &#8212; little did I know I would end up in VT two years later. VT has true winters (12&#8243; of snow one day followed by 19&#8243; is common &#8212; as well as ice storms), and the winter of 2007 had the highest snowfall in its history.  Yet, I never missed a day of work because I couldn&#8217;t drive in (30 miles away with lots of hills).  In fact, the day after the &#8220;Valentines Day Blizzard&#8221; where it snowed 36&#8243; in less than 24 hours, I made it to work the next day (only to find the office and factory 1/3 full).  Now I live in Colorado, where the winters aren&#8217;t nearly as harsh, but I am glad that I can drive in any condition (whether here in the front range &#8212; only 5,800 ft at my place and 14&#8242;ers in the high country).</p>
<p>Moral:<br />
I researched to find a vehicle that would go anywhere.  I bought what I could afford (I paid it off last year).  I bought what I needed.  Need is the important point here.</p>
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		<title>By: chris cruz</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris cruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This program is geared towards people with older SUVS, Trucks, and Minivans during the 90&#039;s-early 00&#039;s Minivan and SUV craze. Those drivers are spending at least $40 a tank and running into numerous repairs. I used to drive a 98 explorer and it ran great until it hit $100,000 miles. Every year from 2004-2008 I spent at least $1000 in repairs. I gave it to my parents when I bought a new car last year because I&#039;d only get about $800-900 for it after all the repairs and problems. They only used it for hauling stuff but it wasn&#039;t a reliable daily driver anymore. If they did drive it everyday it would&#039;ve had more problems. They just traded it in and got $4,500 under CARS and got a Hyundai. They got way more than they could&#039;ve traded it in for, dont have to worry about repairs, and save alot of money on gas too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This program is geared towards people with older SUVS, Trucks, and Minivans during the 90&#8217;s-early 00&#8217;s Minivan and SUV craze. Those drivers are spending at least $40 a tank and running into numerous repairs. I used to drive a 98 explorer and it ran great until it hit $100,000 miles. Every year from 2004-2008 I spent at least $1000 in repairs. I gave it to my parents when I bought a new car last year because I&#8217;d only get about $800-900 for it after all the repairs and problems. They only used it for hauling stuff but it wasn&#8217;t a reliable daily driver anymore. If they did drive it everyday it would&#8217;ve had more problems. They just traded it in and got $4,500 under CARS and got a Hyundai. They got way more than they could&#8217;ve traded it in for, dont have to worry about repairs, and save alot of money on gas too.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Friday Linkfest: Hawaiian Luau Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: marci</title>
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		<dc:creator>marci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Breaking news alert just popped up - Clunkers program to end Monday night 8 pm est.</description>
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