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		<title>By: Searching</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/11/30/life-after-debt/#comment-44091</link>
		<dc:creator>Searching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 03:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the commenters who feel a little bit lost after paying off the CC, cars, etc.  At first my wife and I felt wonderful elation (and certainly blessed), but over time those feelings waned and now we spend a lot of time wondering what&#039;s next.  

We&#039;ve continued to live reasonably frugally relative to our peers, but despite what we tell ourselves, we really don&#039;t get tremendous gratification from foregoing luxuries that our friends enjoy.  More importantly, we see the mountain of college costs (4 kids) bearing down on us as well as the escalating cost of retirement.  It leaves me feeling almost helpless about the amount of money we&#039;ll need to ensure our children don&#039;t graduate with a financial anchor (student loans) or a familial anchor (supporting us in our elder years).  

I earn a good income (6 figures) but I truly don&#039;t understand how people can build enough wealth to manage life&#039;s obligations (eg, children&#039;s education) and prepare for retirement.  The numbers are just ridiculous.  In-state college with room and board is $20-30k per year in real numbers, not what the admissions office tells you.  Retirement, incl. medical expenses, is ridiculous.  And that&#039;s assuming social security doesn&#039;t start means testing.

Almost all financial blogs focus 99% of the commentary on just getting out of debt, but few, if any, spend meaningful time discussing life after debt.  In fact, the blog writers who have achieved debt-free / look-at-me status seem to lose a lot of purpose and motivation in their writing.  I for one would certainly appreciate a more meaningful discussion from people about what they&#039;ve done after crossing the &quot;I&#039;m Debt Free&quot; hurdle and how they&#039;re managing the real costs of life. 

Any thoughts appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the commenters who feel a little bit lost after paying off the CC, cars, etc.  At first my wife and I felt wonderful elation (and certainly blessed), but over time those feelings waned and now we spend a lot of time wondering what&#8217;s next.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve continued to live reasonably frugally relative to our peers, but despite what we tell ourselves, we really don&#8217;t get tremendous gratification from foregoing luxuries that our friends enjoy.  More importantly, we see the mountain of college costs (4 kids) bearing down on us as well as the escalating cost of retirement.  It leaves me feeling almost helpless about the amount of money we&#8217;ll need to ensure our children don&#8217;t graduate with a financial anchor (student loans) or a familial anchor (supporting us in our elder years).  </p>
<p>I earn a good income (6 figures) but I truly don&#8217;t understand how people can build enough wealth to manage life&#8217;s obligations (eg, children&#8217;s education) and prepare for retirement.  The numbers are just ridiculous.  In-state college with room and board is $20-30k per year in real numbers, not what the admissions office tells you.  Retirement, incl. medical expenses, is ridiculous.  And that&#8217;s assuming social security doesn&#8217;t start means testing.</p>
<p>Almost all financial blogs focus 99% of the commentary on just getting out of debt, but few, if any, spend meaningful time discussing life after debt.  In fact, the blog writers who have achieved debt-free / look-at-me status seem to lose a lot of purpose and motivation in their writing.  I for one would certainly appreciate a more meaningful discussion from people about what they&#8217;ve done after crossing the &#8220;I&#8217;m Debt Free&#8221; hurdle and how they&#8217;re managing the real costs of life. </p>
<p>Any thoughts appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Merry Christmas 2009! &#124; Money Smart Life</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/11/30/life-after-debt/#comment-35662</link>
		<dc:creator>Merry Christmas 2009! &#124; Money Smart Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 08:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Investor Junkie</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/11/30/life-after-debt/#comment-35205</link>
		<dc:creator>Investor Junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being completely debt free is overrated.  I&#039;m NOT saying going out charge up that big screen TV you want.. Assets that increase in value for the long haul (10  years, like real estate) and with inflation it makes sense to have low fixed rate debt.

Something you alluded to in this post is opportunity cost. By paying off your debt and not investing in other higher return investments you&#039;ve missed out on some capital gains.

It&#039;s different strokes for different folks.  Some feel safer with no debt, for me personally I feel the reverse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being completely debt free is overrated.  I&#8217;m NOT saying going out charge up that big screen TV you want.. Assets that increase in value for the long haul (10  years, like real estate) and with inflation it makes sense to have low fixed rate debt.</p>
<p>Something you alluded to in this post is opportunity cost. By paying off your debt and not investing in other higher return investments you&#8217;ve missed out on some capital gains.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s different strokes for different folks.  Some feel safer with no debt, for me personally I feel the reverse.</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda Pike</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/11/30/life-after-debt/#comment-35006</link>
		<dc:creator>Brenda Pike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My boyfriend just finished paying off our debt this week—a combined $100,000 of credit cards and student loans. Suddenly everyone&#039;s encouraging us to buy a house, but I think I just want to enjoy this freedom for a little while. Our new goals will probably be:

1) Increase our charitable contributions
2) Rebuild our emergency fund (we dipped into it at the end to pay off our last loan)
3) Increase our retirement contributions
4) Save up some money for my boyfriend to get his master&#039;s degree

So exciting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My boyfriend just finished paying off our debt this week—a combined $100,000 of credit cards and student loans. Suddenly everyone&#8217;s encouraging us to buy a house, but I think I just want to enjoy this freedom for a little while. Our new goals will probably be:</p>
<p>1) Increase our charitable contributions<br />
2) Rebuild our emergency fund (we dipped into it at the end to pay off our last loan)<br />
3) Increase our retirement contributions<br />
4) Save up some money for my boyfriend to get his master&#8217;s degree</p>
<p>So exciting!</p>
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		<title>By: GK</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/11/30/life-after-debt/#comment-34971</link>
		<dc:creator>GK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question:  Do you include your mortgage liability as &quot;debt?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question:  Do you include your mortgage liability as &#8220;debt?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/11/30/life-after-debt/#comment-34967</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since credit cards can boost your interest rate to as much as 30% for a late payment, would you suggest emergency funds from payday loans to avoid making a late payment and causing your entire credit card balance being changed to 30%? The APR on these loans is high, but paying $30 to borrow $200 to avoid a late payment has to be preferable to a 30% interest rate on a revolving balance that may be $5000 or higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since credit cards can boost your interest rate to as much as 30% for a late payment, would you suggest emergency funds from payday loans to avoid making a late payment and causing your entire credit card balance being changed to 30%? The APR on these loans is high, but paying $30 to borrow $200 to avoid a late payment has to be preferable to a 30% interest rate on a revolving balance that may be $5000 or higher.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew @ LifeOfAnInvestor.com</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/11/30/life-after-debt/#comment-34963</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew @ LifeOfAnInvestor.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree wholeheartedly.  I am in a very similar position as you.  We have paid off all of our debt and we are trying to save up around $12,000 for an emergency fund, which of that, so far we have around $4,000 saved.

I find that it&#039;s almost harder to resist the temptation to go in debt now.  We have many remodeling projects that need to be done in our house currently.  Instead of being dedicated to saving for our emergency fund, it&#039;s a lot easier to minimize our savings and throw a few thousand at new hardwood floors, a couple thousand more at a new staircase, etc.  

I had temporarily stopped my 401(k) contributions and college savings accounts while we saved up an emergency fund, but recently reisntated these since we are not being as serious as wee need to be towards saving for the emergency fund.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree wholeheartedly.  I am in a very similar position as you.  We have paid off all of our debt and we are trying to save up around $12,000 for an emergency fund, which of that, so far we have around $4,000 saved.</p>
<p>I find that it&#8217;s almost harder to resist the temptation to go in debt now.  We have many remodeling projects that need to be done in our house currently.  Instead of being dedicated to saving for our emergency fund, it&#8217;s a lot easier to minimize our savings and throw a few thousand at new hardwood floors, a couple thousand more at a new staircase, etc.  </p>
<p>I had temporarily stopped my 401(k) contributions and college savings accounts while we saved up an emergency fund, but recently reisntated these since we are not being as serious as wee need to be towards saving for the emergency fund.</p>
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		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/11/30/life-after-debt/#comment-34691</link>
		<dc:creator>Online Shopping Tips To Help You Shop Safely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 06:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sean @ BungalowAGogo</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/11/30/life-after-debt/#comment-34366</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean @ BungalowAGogo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Life always throws curve balls and always will.  The need for money is ongoing and you have proven you can overcome the &quot;payoff&quot; challenge.  I have confidence you will meet your next set of financial challenges equally well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life always throws curve balls and always will.  The need for money is ongoing and you have proven you can overcome the &#8220;payoff&#8221; challenge.  I have confidence you will meet your next set of financial challenges equally well.</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Samurai</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/11/30/life-after-debt/#comment-34349</link>
		<dc:creator>Financial Samurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to know it&#039;s easier FD!  I&#039;ve always used debt as a motivator for me to do better at work and make more money.

I wonder if I will stop lacking motivation if there&#039;s nothing for me to really support?  Do you think that&#039;s possible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to know it&#8217;s easier FD!  I&#8217;ve always used debt as a motivator for me to do better at work and make more money.</p>
<p>I wonder if I will stop lacking motivation if there&#8217;s nothing for me to really support?  Do you think that&#8217;s possible?</p>
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