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		<title>The End of Universal Default</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>There have been few more controversial credit card practices than the one known as Universal Default. With the arrival of the Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility, and Disclosure (CARD) Act of 2009, it is soon expected to be a thing of the past.</p>
<p>The elimination of universal default is one of the most important provisions of the sweeping federal legislation, signed in May and going into effect in stages through next August, that is expected to change the face of the credit industry, <strong>probably including ways that we do not yet expect</strong>.</p>
<p>Universal default provisions, often buried in credit card contract gobbledygook, have allowed the credit card companies to charge cardholders more interest for late payments that had nothing to do with that specific account. Simply put, this common provision has allowed the credit card companies to increase the interest rate when a consumer fails to make a payment on another unrelated account, be it another credit card account or some other type of credit account. Like a phone bill. Or a water bill.</p>
<p>The CARD Act would limit increases in interest rates to “a specific, material violation of the card agreement by the issuer,” according to a Senate Committee report on the bill. It also requires credit issuers to lower penalty rates after six months if the cardholder meets his obligations.</p>
<p><strong>The dollar amounts involved in Universal Default can be significant</strong>. The finance website The Motley Fool calculated that an $8,000 balance could see an increase of $1,200 per year with an interest rate rise of 15 to 30 percent. If you are on the border of being able or not being able to pay your credit card bills, the default provision can make the difference, particularly when compounded over several cards.</p>
<p>Advocates of the universal default provisions would say that they are accepting the reality of a consumer’s overall credit profile. If a person fails to make a payment on another account, it could indicate that they will have a more difficult time making a payment on the subject credit card account when the time comes. Therefore the increase in interest rates can discourage further borrowing that cannot be met with payment. In addition, it keeps more reliable cardholders from having to pick up as much of the tab if in fact that person eventually defaults on the balance.</p>
<p>Critics of Universal Default, however, point out that having multiple creditors simultaneously raising the interest rates and charging the consumer more can create a credit card death spiral that would not have existed without the universal default provisions. In addition, they have questioned the fairness of altering a contract when the contract has not been violated. It is perfectly reasonable to think that a person can miss a payment on one card for a variety of reasons and still make the regular payments on another.</p>
<p><em>Is Universal Default really dead, or will credit card companies figure out other ways to accomplish the same goals? Only time will tell.</em></p>
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		<title>Credit Cards To Charge Good Behavior Fees</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/10/25/credit-card-fee-for-paying-balance-off/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In what could ultimately be a game-changer in the credit card industry, it appears credit card companies are considering charging customers a new sort of annual fee &#8211; for paying off your balance each month. The information is coming slow, but I did find a good article by USA Today, Latest Bank Fee is for [...]<p>Post by <a href="http://frugaldad.com">Frugal Dad</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In what could ultimately be a game-changer in the credit card industry, it appears credit card companies are considering charging customers a new sort of annual fee &#8211; for paying off your balance each month. The information is coming slow, but I did find a good article by USA Today, <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/columnist/block/2009-10-19-bank-of-america-card-fee_N.htm" target="_blank"><em>Latest Bank Fee is for Paying Off Credit Card On Time Every Month</em></a>, that runs down a few of the cards and their new tactics.</p>
<p><strong>Credit card companies, and their defenders, will of course point to the new <a href="http://cashmoneylife.com/2009/09/24/credit-card-act-changes-coming-sooner/" target="_blank">Credit CARD Act</a>, which will limit revenue opportunities for credit card companies</strong>. However, in my mind, this is yet another customer-losing reaction to the impending legislation. You can blame the law of unintended consequences and thank the government, or you can blame the credit card issuers and close your accounts.</p>
<p>In the past, any time I&#8217;ve mentioned closing all my credit cards and living on cash, I get dozens of comments extolling the benefits of using a credit card. There are reward programs, and added consumer protection policies, and of course the convenience factor. To sell their position, fans of credit cards always pointed out that you could simply pay off the balance every month to avoid interest and fees. What if that isn&#8217;t true in the very near future? Does that change their opinion? Does it change yours?</p>
<p>Just when I start to get comfortable using my one remaining credit card (I use it to run through gas and utility payments and pay it off at the end of the month), news like this comes out and makes me skeptical of credit card companies all over again. <strong></strong></p>
<p><strong>At what point do we just make ourselves immune to the whims of bank CEOs and government officials and say to heck with credit cards</strong>? <a href="http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/2009/10/credit-cards-close-em-shred-em-forget-em/" target="_blank"><strong>Just shred &#8216;em</strong></a>! Well, I am getting pretty close to that point. If the issuer of my last card decides to play these fee games I&#8217;ll take a pair of sharp shears to it and live on cash. Come to think of it, I doubt I&#8217;d miss them.</p>
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		<title>Credit Cards: To Close Or Not To Close</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/10/05/credit-cards-to-close-or-not-to-close/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Melissa writes in with the following question about closing credit cards:
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melissa writes in with the following question about closing credit cards:</p>
<blockquote><p>I have an old credit card account where my charging privileges were revoked because I was having trouble making my payments.  I have since then paid off the card and it is at a zero balance.  Do I now close the account?  Would it help my credit more if I left it open?  I am trying to rebuild after years of bad credit decisions.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Deciding to close a credit card or leave it open is a tough decision</strong>. Unfortunately, it sounds like the credit card issuer beat you to the punch. Chances are they closed your account due to past due activity, which is a major blow to your <a href="http://frugaldad.com/offers/myfico" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://frugaldad.com/offers/myfico';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">credit score</a> because it reflects that the account was closed by the issuer, rather than by you, voluntarily.</p>
<p>Now that the card is paid off, you might try contacting the issuer to ask if they can update the account to reflect it was closed voluntarily. They probably won&#8217;t change the account&#8217;s status, but it&#8217;s worth asking. The very fact you paid it off will help heal your credit score, as will time since the last activity (negative information should drop off your report in seven years after the last activity).</p>
<p>If in fact your account still reflects &#8220;Open&#8221; on your credit card, you may want to consider leaving it open to help rebuild your credit. To do so, charge something you buy every single month, and don&#8217;t have a lot of discretion in the amount spent (gasoline, or a utility bill, comes to mind). When your credit card bill arrives, pay it off promptly. This continued, responsible use of credit will help boost your credit score over time.</p>
<p>There is, of course, another side to this argument. <strong>Some would argue to close it and leave it closed</strong>. Don&#8217;t play with snakes. I used to feel this way myself, but since turning around my own finances over the course of a couple years, I&#8217;m now empowered by the fact that I can buy something on my credit card for purchase protections (particularly when shopping online), and simply pay it off in full later in the month. I&#8217;m in control now; not the credit card.</p>
<p>It sounds like you&#8217;ve made a lot of progress in your own financial turnaround, and I applaud you. Whatever you decide to do, don&#8217;t repeat those same mistakes from the past that led to problems paying your bill. The road back to responsible credit use can be a slippery slope, so if you feel yourself start to slip, put that credit card away and go back to spending cash.</p>
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		<title>Credit Card Overlimit Fees Taking a Hike?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I worked in a credit card customer service call center a decade ago I bet I took a dozen calls a day related to overlimit fees being charged to cardholders&#8217; accounts. I was of course trained to toe the company line, explaining that fees were well documented in our terms and disclosures, and by [...]<p>Post by <a href="http://frugaldad.com">Frugal Dad</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I worked in a credit card customer service call center a decade ago I bet I took a dozen calls a day related to overlimit fees being charged to cardholders&#8217; accounts. I was of course trained to toe the company line, explaining that fees were well documented in our terms and disclosures, and by using the card customers agreed to those terms. Inside I always felt a little dirty.</p>
<p>Ultimately, I decided to leave the industry altogether for a variety of reasons, not just because the companies I represented charged fees. But one that always got me was the overlimit fee. To me, overlimit fees were an interesting example of human behavior mixed with strange business practices.</p>
<p><strong>On the surface, you would think a $39 fee would be enough of a deterrent to keep people from charging above their credit line</strong>. Unfortunately, that is not the case, but it is not the whole story either. Credit card companies are nice enough to include an &#8220;authorization pad&#8221; (usually a few hundred dollars) so charges in excess of your available credit may be approved by merchants. Nice service, huh?</p>
<p>It would be a nice service if they didn&#8217;t follow up their generosity with an overlimit fee. Theoretically, a $10 purchase that barely puts you over the credit limit could cost you $49 thanks to the additional fee.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t credit cards decline transactions in excess of the available credit? Their answer (spin) is usually something like, &#8220;We are saving customers the embarrassment of being declined.&#8221; Gee thanks. And what a bargain! <strong>The real truth is they allow the charge to go through so they <em>can </em>charge overlimit fees</strong>.</p>
<p>That practice may not be happening for long though. As this Consumerist post points out, <a href="http://consumerist.com/5332931/amex-discover-ditch-overlimit-fees" target="_blank"><strong>Amex and Discover have already ditched overlimit fees</strong></a>. Before you feel too sorry for Amex or Discover (yeah right), realize that this loss of income will be made up elsewhere &#8211; probably by reducing reward program benefits, and increasing rates.</p>
<p>This move to get rid of overlimit fees can be credited mostly to the <a href="http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/05/20/credit-card-reform-the-card-act-of-2009/" target="_blank"><strong>CARD Act</strong></a> passed in the spring. When enacted, the CARD Act will require issuers to &#8220;opt in&#8221; to the feature of being able to exceed their credit limit, and be subject to a fee. That involves a lot of maintenance to cardholders&#8217; accounts, so Amex and Discover decided it wasn&#8217;t worth the hassle. I&#8217;d expect other issuers to follow suit, except the subprime credit card issuers who would tack on a fee for being charged a fee if they could.</p>
<p><strong>Any worries over credit card overlimit fees can be ignored if you simply decide not to spend on a credit card, particularly one that is nearing its credit limit</strong>. Charging in excess of your credit limit is the financial equivalent of spending more than is available in your checking account, and both actions may result in nasty fees.</p>
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		<title>Credit Card Skip-A-Payment Offer Does You No Favors</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are in the home stretch of paying off our remaining credit card balance. As a reward for the extra large payments we&#8217;ve been sending our credit card issuer, they have graciously offered us the opportunity to skip a payment this month. Thanks, but no thanks.
When It Might Make Sense To Skip a Payment
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are in the home stretch of paying off our remaining credit card balance. As a reward for the extra large payments we&#8217;ve been sending our credit card issuer, they have graciously offered us the opportunity to skip a payment this month. Thanks, but no thanks.</p>
<h3>When It Might Make Sense To Skip a Payment</h3>
<p>Several months ago when we were just starting our plan we received a similar offer from a different credit card (they&#8217;ve since been paid off and closed). At the time we had very little in savings, and the balance was comprised of a <a href="http://www.kqzyfj.com/click-2799633-10692153?sid=skippayment" target="_blank"><strong>low-interest balance transfer offer</strong></a>. Since we were not being gouged with an awfully high interest rate, we decided to save the minimum payment to help build our beginning emergency fund.</p>
<p>It might also make sense to to take advantage of a skip a payment offer from your credit card issuer if you are in the middle of a crisis &#8211; medical disability, recently laid off, etc. In these cases, cash in your pocket to pay basic bills is more important than a relatively small reduction of debt made by a minimum payment.</p>
<h3>Why I Don&#8217;t Like Skip A Payment Offers</h3>
<p>Assuming you have the money to make your payment, and you are not in the middle of a real emergency, I recommend not taking advantage of a skip a payment offer from your credit card issuer. Here&#8217;s why. The credit card company offering to let you slide without a payment does not suspend the charging of interest that particular month. Since interest is calculated on the outstanding average daily balance on your account, not making a payment means you will pay a little more in interest.</p>
<p><strong>There is also a psychological risk associated with not making a payment</strong>. This risk is similar to the one associated with conducting a <a href="http://frugaldad.com/offers/balancetransfers" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://frugaldad.com/offers/balancetransfers';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">balance transfer</a>, or <a href="http://frugaldad.com/offers/loans" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://frugaldad.com/offers/loans';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">debt consolidation</a>. You think you&#8217;ve made progress, but you haven&#8217;t, you&#8217;ve simply shifted your money around. In the case of skipping a payment you are taking the $50 you were going to pay towards debt and tossing it in savings, or spending it, two activities than will not likely improve your situation that dramatically.</p>
<p>However, using that same $50 to pay down debt means a permanent $50 reduction in the amount you owe (minus a little interest accumulation, and assuming you don&#8217;t run credit card balances back up). If you owed $700 on a credit card that would look like a 7% reduction in the amount you owe. Not bad, especially considering that money tucked away in savings would probably be earning less than 2% interest a year.</p>
<p><strong>The bottom line is to keep the right perspective with any offer from your credit card company: skepticism</strong>. Credit card issuers are in business to make money. It&#8217;s certainly not illegal, or immoral to turn a profit, but remember that every offer, every decision they make, has been run through numerous profitibality models, and risk assessments. They are not extending an offer to skip a payment, or increase your credit line, to help you.</p>
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		<title>Teen Credit Cards: What&#8217;s Your Take?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just hearing the words &#8220;teen credit cards&#8221; creates a visceral reaction in many people, one way or the other. It sparks debate faster than the classic question of whether or not to pay kids an allowance. I have a strong opinion on the subject (imagine that), and I&#8217;ll share it with you below. But I&#8217;m [...]<p>Post by <a href="http://frugaldad.com">Frugal Dad</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just hearing the words &#8220;teen credit cards&#8221; creates a visceral reaction in many people, one way or the other. It sparks debate faster than the classic question of whether or not to pay kids an allowance. I have a strong opinion on the subject (imagine that), and I&#8217;ll share it with you below. But I&#8217;m really interested to get your take on the issue of credit cards for teens.</p>
<h3>Should You Give Your Teenager a Credit Card?</h3>
<p>My short answer is no. I do not think teens should have a credit card, but not because they cannot be trusted, or because it encourages the use of plastic. <strong>I don&#8217;t think <em>anyone </em>should have a credit card if they do not have the means to pay it back themselves</strong>. Now if I could be convinced that my kids earned a steady income of $300 a month at their part time job and their limit would never increase beyond $300, then theoretically they would not accumulate debt. We all know that is not the way it works.</p>
<p>Credit cards companies give thousands of dollars in available credit to college students every day, even those with no income and no ability to repay. I know because I signed up for one my freshman year in school, and the first thing I charged was a Sony PlayStation <a href="http://frugaldad.com/offers/gamefly" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://frugaldad.com/offers/gamefly';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">video game</a> system. After all, I could pay it back over the next couple months thanks to my part time job.</p>
<p>Over those next couple months I had two small emergencies that wiped out my part time earnings, and a third that I had to charge on the new credit card. So began the minimum payment game I would play for years to come.</p>
<p>Proponents of teen credit cards point out that allowing kids to have a credit card will help them learn to use credit responsibly as an adult. Good thing those same people don&#8217;t feel the same way about alcohol.</p>
<p>No, there are some things that young teenagers should not have to contend with, and one of those is the pull of available credit. <strong>Using cash hurts, and the lack of transactional pain missing when spending with a credit card will warp their spending habits</strong>. In fact, it has been shown to warp even adult&#8217;s spending habits &#8211; you just simply tend to spend more with plastic than with cash.</p>
<h3>But It Will Help Their Credit History!</h3>
<p>Maybe, but there will be opportunities to prove a history of creditworthiness later when they are finished with school, have their own jobs and are ready to buy a home. I tend to believe credit scores are overrated. Sure, some employers are now using them to screen employees, and other companies are using them to set rates for insurance, etc, but for the most part there is little incentive for a teenager to have an 800 <a href="http://frugaldad.com/offers/myfico" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://frugaldad.com/offers/myfico';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">FICO score</a>. What can they do with it besides get into more debt?</p>
<p><em>As the Readers: What do you think about credit cards for teenagers? Bad idea, or good introduction to credit? Feel free to agree or disagree in the comments below.</em></p>
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		<title>Store Credit Cards Spark Celebration</title>
		<link>http://frugaldad.com/2009/07/01/store-credit-cards/</link>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last weekend my wife and I took the kids to a local department store for a little back-to-school shopping a couple months early. I recently cashed in some very old credit card rewards from a card we paid off recently in exchange for a gift card to a well-known department store. Combined with a 30% [...]<p>Post by <a href="http://frugaldad.com">Frugal Dad</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last weekend my wife and I took the kids to a local department store for a little back-to-school shopping a couple months early. I recently cashed in some very old credit card rewards from a card we paid off recently in exchange for a gift card to a well-known department store. Combined with a 30% store sales flier we figured we could snag a couple deals before school starts at the end of summer.</p>
<p>I consider myself a fairly patient dad when it comes to shopping. During most shopping excursions my son and I take up our post outside the girl&#8217;s dressing room and hold &#8220;buy&#8221; and &#8220;put back&#8221; merchandise as my wife scurries back and forth from the dressing room to the clothing racks.</p>
<p>During this particular visit I noticed a garbled announcement over the store&#8217;s intercom system every few minutes followed by a rowdy cheer from store employees. By the fourth of fifth time I was curious enough (and sufficiently annoyed by the irrational exuberance) to ask a nearby employee what the celebration was about.<strong> &#8220;We just signed up another credit card,&#8221; she replied enthusiastically</strong>. My sarcastic reply was, &#8220;And why are we celebrating?&#8221; She scowled and went back to folding new shirts to put on the store shelves.</p>
<p>After what seemed like half a day my wife and daughter emerged from the dressing room with a reasonable number of new outfits. We put back those that didn&#8217;t fit, or were a little too expensive, and made our way to the register. &#8220;Attention associates, Julie just signed up her sixth credit card. Only four more and Julie wins the referral contest!&#8221; The store immediately erupted with cheers from store associates. Had I entered the debt <em>Twilight Zone </em>or something?</p>
<p>&#8220;Would you like to sign up for a (store name shall remain anonymous to protect the not-so-innocent) card today?&#8221; No thanks, I replied. &#8220;But sir, you can save 10% off today&#8217;s purchases in addition to the sales price.&#8221; Again, I declined, and this time added, &#8220;I don&#8217;t shop with credit cards any more, and we&#8217;re paying off our remaining card.&#8221;</p>
<p>At this point I could see her preparing her final pitch to add another notch in her credit card sign up belt. It would probably sound something like, &#8220;<strong>If you are approved for the card you can save 10% and then pay if off when the bill arrives</strong>.&#8221; Sounds logical, I know. However, she failed to tell me if I was just one day late her department store would charge me 24.99% interest for the privilege of using their store card. No thanks.</p>
<p>While I am not totally &#8220;anti-credit card,&#8221; I&#8217;ve grown less and less fond of them over the last few months. It seems like every day there is a new story out about a credit card issuer raising interest rates, lowering credit limits, doubling minimum payment amounts, and other sleazy tactics. I&#8217;ve even experienced some of this myself.</p>
<p>Card issuer&#8217;s defense is that the impending credit card reform legislation will eat into their profits, so they are merely reacting months in advance to offset those losses. From a profit/loss perspective I get that, but I still believe a credit card company, or store, that wants to retain customers, should show them the same loyalty they ask for in return.</p>
<p>When I was younger I used to work at a variety of retail stores and had to push credit cards to customers. I didn&#8217;t particularly enjoy it, and I would despise it today. There is nothing more annoying than a store employee greeting customers at the door with a clipboard filled with credit card applications. I respect stores rights to market their card, but a simple stack of applications at the register would suffice.</p>
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		<title>Get Rid Of Unwanted Credit Cards</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today&#8217;s &#8220;Ask the Reader&#8221; question comes from Sherry.  She writes:
How does one go about canceling unwanted credit cards?  You know, those credit cards you get so you can get a 10% discount on your 1st purchase&#8230;I think I have a 2&#8243; stack of unwanted, unused credit cards.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s &#8220;Ask the Reader&#8221; question comes from Sherry.  She writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>How does one go about canceling unwanted credit cards?  You know, those credit cards you get so you can get a 10% discount on your 1st purchase&#8230;I think I have a 2&#8243; stack of unwanted, unused credit cards.</p>
<p>We recently refinanced our house and superior credit (no reason to worry about our credit) and no debt&#8230;so how do I get rid of these cards?</p></blockquote>
<p>Sherry, closing credit cards can be a little bit tricky in that it does affect your <a href="http://frugaldad.com/offers/myfico" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://frugaldad.com/offers/myfico';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">credit score</a>, but probably not enough to be greatly concerned. Your FICO score is calculated by a number of factors, and two of them related to your question are credit utilization ratios, and the average age of your credit history.</p>
<p><strong>Your credit utilization takes into account the amount of debt you have outstanding against your total credit limits</strong>.  For instance, if you owed $3,000 on a $10,000 credit card, your credit utilization would be 30%.  It is generally accepted that you should aim to keep your utilization ratio below 30% to improve your scores.  By closing accounts you are eliminating the $10,000 credit line from that formula, and instantly increasing your credit utilization.</p>
<p>In your case, it&#8217;s a moot point.  You are debt free.  Having a number of open trade lines may actually be detrimental in your case as lenders may see the cards as an opportunity to accumulate future debt.  Another risk is the more open accounts you have floating around, the higher the chances of falling victim to identify theft.</p>
<p><strong>The length of time your credit accounts have been on file also affects your credit score</strong>.  Closing accounts you have had in place for several years effectively lowers the average age of your credit history, and may negative affect your score.  I wouldn&#8217;t let this deter you from closing out the unwanted credit cards, because the effects on your credit will be minimal.  I suspect you&#8217;ve accumulated the cards over a number of months or years, so closing them all will likely have little net effect on credit scores.</p>
<p>As for the mechanics of closing out these cards, the best way to do it is in writing.  I typically call customer service and advise that I would like to close the account.  Some places will try to negotiate, or talk to you like you&#8217;re an idiot for not wanting their card.  Stay cool &#8211; be adamant that you would like the account closed, and then follow up with the same request via letter to make sure it is in fact closed.</p>
<p>In order to keep your credit cards to a <strong><a href="http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/eservice_journal/v001/1.1nath.html">minimum</a></strong> you should only apply to the best <strong><a href="http://www.bromoney.com/credit-card-offers">credit card offers</a></strong>. Some of the bigger banks offer some pretty good <a href="http://frugaldad.com/offers/rewardscards" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://frugaldad.com/offers/rewardscards';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">rewards cards</a> that you might want to have for your daily purchases. However, if you&#8217;re looking at <a href="http://frugaldad.com/offers/ingdirect" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://frugaldad.com/offers/ingdirect';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">savings accounts</a>, then an <strong><a href="http://www.bromoney.com/">internet bank</a></strong> is usually your best bet to find good <strong><a href="http://www.bromoney.com/savings-account-interest-rates">savings account rates</a></strong> for your <strong><a href="http://www.fdic.gov/BANK/INDIVIDUAL/ONLINE/SAFE.html">cash</a>.</strong></p>
<p><em>Do you have any tips to add for Sherry?</em></p>
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		<title>How Many Credit Cards Do You Carry?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the interest of consolidating the number of bills, accounts and general financial noise in our lives, my wife and I scaled back some months ago to two credit cards.  At one time we had several more opened for store accounts, gas cards, etc. I carry one of the remaining credit cards in my wallet [...]<p>Post by <a href="http://frugaldad.com">Frugal Dad</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the interest of consolidating the number of bills, accounts and general financial noise in our lives, my wife and I scaled back some months ago to two credit cards.  At one time we had several more opened for store accounts, gas cards, etc. <strong>I carry one of the remaining credit cards in my wallet for gas purchases only, and the other stays at home</strong>.</p>
<p>The credit card stored at home is our oldest account, in both our names, so we keep it open for general credit health and in case of some major emergency.  We use it a couple times a year to keep it somewhat active, usually to pay a utility, and then pay it off when the bill arrives.</p>
<p>Out of curiosity, I surveyed Twitter followers and of those that carried at least one credit card the average number in follower&#8217;s wallets was two &#8211; often reported as &#8220;one personal, one for business.&#8221;</p>
<p>While I certainly don&#8217;t miss the credit cards we&#8217;ve eliminated (nor their balances), I do miss some of the rewards programs and their perks.  Of course, these perks are dwindling as credit cards issuers pull back on bonuses in the currect economic environment.</p>
<p>Another aspect of carrying more than one card was the idea of having a backup.  <strong>It was a mental block, really &#8211; just an excuse to keep more than one card in my wallet</strong>.  Seriously, I couldn&#8217;t tell you more than one or two times in my entire life that my primary credit card did not work (and at least one of those times it was because I had maxed out the small limit).</p>
<p>Now days I carry a debit card for 90% of my purchases, and that would be a sufficient backup if my <a href="http://frugaldad.com/offers/creditcards" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://frugaldad.com/offers/creditcards';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">gas card</a> failed me.  <strong>Funny how we rationalize the need to have more than one credit card</strong>.</p>
<p>When I worked in the credit card industry I used to talk to customers who had a card for each budget category.  Can you imagine having six cards in your wallet labeled &#8211; food, entertainment, gas, utilities, clothing, etc?  Actually, it&#8217;s not a bad idea, but who wants to keep up with six credit card bills!</p>
<p><em>So tell us, how many credit cards do you have in your wallet?  Is this number higher or lower than it was a year ago?</em></p>
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		<title>Teen Credit Cards</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stacey from familylifebydesign.com gave me a heads up last week on a new product being peddled by Discover. While I like the Discover More card for grown-ups, I am not fond of the new product aimed at teens, and here&#8217;s why.
The new Discover Current card is being sold as a debit card alternative for teenagers. [...]<p>Post by <a href="http://frugaldad.com">Frugal Dad</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stacey from <a href="http://www.familylifebydesign.com" target="_blank"><strong>familylifebydesign.com</strong></a> gave me a heads up last week on a new product being peddled by Discover. While I like the Discover More card for grown-ups, I am not fond of the new product aimed at teens, and here&#8217;s why.</p>
<p><strong>The new Discover Current card is being sold as a debit card alternative for teenagers</strong>. Parents can load money on to the plastic via their own credit card (wonder if this counts as a cash advance), and can place limits on how much can be spent and where it can be spent, all the way down to individual merchants. All this for a $5.00 monthly fee.</p>
<p>According to the Discover website you can even &#8220;<strong>browse Teen Card designs that are way cooler than cash</strong>.&#8221; It makes for great marketing speak, but it made me stop and reflect back on my own years as a teenager and wonder, when did cash stop being cool? I can distinctly remember how it felt to get my first $20 bill. I thought I was rich!</p>
<p>As an early teen I spent a summer day at my great aunt&#8217;s house installing a mailbox and post, and doing general yard cleanup on her property. At the end of the day she gave me $20, and I felt like a million bucks! I resisted spending that $20 bill for quite a while simply because I liked seeing it in my wallet. She could have given me a piece of plastic with a fancy design on it and the feelings of excitement would have turned to, &#8220;What am I supposed to do with this?&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks to years of Visa and Mastercard (and Discover) pushing their products down to our youth, and our youth watching their parents use and abuse the same products, <strong>kids know exactly what to do with plastic these days &#8211; swipe it</strong>! The problem is, they don&#8217;t see Mom and Dad opening the bills and the end of the month in tears wondering how they are going to come up with the minimum payment. It is a one-sided view, an incomplete picture into the world of credit.</p>
<p>No, I would rather my kids grow up thinking cash was still cool. I pay my kids allowance and commissions for extra jobs in cash, and will resist giving them plastic as long as paper currency is still a legal tender. Call me old-fashioned. I just don&#8217;t think kids are able to fully grasp the transactional differences in swiping plastic and watching that $20 leave their hand and receiving $0.70 in change back.</p>
<p>It hurts to spend cash. It is supposed to hurt. We are exchanging our money for some good or service. That is money we worked for, or saved for, or could spend on something in the future. <strong>Instead, we are trading it in for something we feel is of equal value today</strong>. These concepts are difficult for many adults to understand, and something I didn&#8217;t really &#8220;get&#8221; until my late twenties. Why do we expect young teenagers to get it before we did?</p>
<p>Some will make the argument that giving teens a product like the Discover Current card will help them learn budgeting concepts, and how to use plastic wisely. Maybe. But I&#8217;m not convinced. Besides, how can teens learn these concepts when parents have restricted purchases to certain merchants, or blocked ATM transactions, or only allow them to spend a certain amount each day.</p>
<p><strong>One could make the argument that normalizing the use of plastic too early could be dangerous</strong>.  I would tend to agree with this argument. I read a great analogy once (I think it was from Trent at <a href="http://thesimpledollar.com" target="_blank"><strong>TheSimpleDollar.com</strong></a>) that compared credit cards to power tools.  Sure, they make things convenient, but they can be dangerous in untrained hands.</p>
<p>If my son wanted to cut a piece of wood at eight years old I wouldn&#8217;t mind helping him guide a handsaw, but I wouldn&#8217;t fire up the skill saw and hand it over to him, even though he will use it when he gets older and it is more convenient and &#8220;cool.&#8221;  I know, I know, kids aren&#8217;t going to lose any fingers over swiping a Discover Current card, but they just might grow up with bad habits that cost them their financial future.</p>
<p>I believe it is good for kids to go through a few cycles of earning money, blowing it all in an afternoon at the mall, and being broke until the next Friday when they get their allowance. Eventually, they just might learn not to blow all their money on &#8220;payday,&#8221; and will hold some back for the next week. <strong>But if parents artificially manage this for them using the card&#8217;s technology, how will kids ever learn to budget their money?</strong></p>
<p>For now the only Discover credit card in our household will be the one I use to buy gas. When my kids are old enough to apply for their own card, and they are earning their own money, then maybe they can have one, too. But for now they will stick to cash for spending and handsaws for cutting.</p>
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